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Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to

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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 01:47:19PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We also need to understand why people use -private when perhaps they
> ought not.  One reason is that -private has a better signal to noise
> ratio than -devel or -project, and therefore people pay more attention
> to it.

I'm sorry to be so negative, but I'm afraid I have to say that I
object to the suggestion of creating a members-only mailing list. It
creates another barrier to participation in Debian at a time when we
should be tearing them down.

The solution to low signal to noise ratios on our "big" lists (-devel,
-project, -vote) can't be creating more and more lists. We should
improve the ratio instead by using working techniques. Let's not
forget that it isn't always non-members who bring down the ratio.

Years ago, Ubuntu split their development mailing list into an open
list and one where posting was allowed for Ubuntu members only. I
don't know if that's still the case, but in about 2007-2009 it didn't
seem to me that it worked very well.

-- 
Schrödinger's backup hypothesis: the condition of any backup is
undefined until a restore is attempted. -- andrewsh

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Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 14:50 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:40 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 17:00 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 20:00 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-18 20:40 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 21:20 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 02:30 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 03:00 +0200
              Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Michael Wilson <adebianuser@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org> - 2016-08-27 22:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2016-08-24 10:50 +0200

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