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Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to

From Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to
Date 2016-08-24 10:50 +0200
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* Ian Jackson:

> tl;dr:
>   pls can we create debian-members@l.d.o with posting acceptance rules
>   copied from debian-devel-announce[1] and subscriber list maintained in
>   sync with debian-private.

I think the only half-successful setups for such discussion lists
provide web-only read access.  If non-posters can subscribe, they are
tempted to take part in the discussion, only to be rejected, which is
bad because it rubs in the DD/non-DD distinction.

Even with web-only read access, Cc:s still have a strange effect.
Non-posters might try to reply to a Cc:ed copy, and their replies
propagate through the unrestricted parts of the Cc: list, but not to
the restricted list.  This isn't very welcoming, either.

Web archives without general posting privileges are also unfair to
those whose matters are discussed on the list, but cannot add to the
archives on their own.

In the end, the user experience is worse than a completely private
list.  At least it's easy to completely ignore the existence of such
lists if you are not a subscriber.

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Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 14:50 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:40 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-18 16:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 17:00 +0200
    Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:50 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 20:00 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-18 20:40 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 21:20 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 00:20 +0200
          Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 02:30 +0200
            Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-19 03:00 +0200
              Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Michael Wilson <adebianuser@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2016-07-18 23:40 +0200
        Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org> - 2016-08-27 22:20 +0200
  Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2016-08-24 10:50 +0200

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