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Re: iptables question

From Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: iptables question
Date 2016-11-13 11:40 +0100
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Le 13/11/2016 à 11:09, Joe a écrit :
> Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote:
>
>> Le 12/11/2016 à 23:32, Joe a écrit :
>>>
>>> The SNAT should not be an issue, it can handle all protocols
>>> transparently
>>
>> No it cannot. NAT is not possible with some IP protocols. Plain IPSec
>> (without NAT-T encapsulation) is the first one that comes in mind.
>
> I used to have a fair bit to do with PPTP through three or four NATs,

PPTP rather falls into the "complex protocols" described below.

>> Also many complex protocols such as FTP or SIP (nothing exotic here)
>> require special support and this is not transparent as it requires
>> messing with the payload, not only with the packet headers. Use of
>> encryption with these protocoles may come in the way and defeat NAT
>> handling.
>
> Is ssh really a more difficult protocol to handle than http?

No. SSH relies on a single TCP connection, like TCP and other "simple" 
protocols. I reacted to you writing "NAT can handle *all* protocols 
*transparently*".

> I'm using 'protocol' in
> the small-p sense, not referring specifically to Internet Protocols.

What is the "small-p sense" ?

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iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 22:20 +0100
  Re: iptables question Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-12 23:40 +0100
    Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 01:30 +0100
      Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 10:50 +0100
      Re: iptables question Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 12:40 +0100
        Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 16:10 +0100
          Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 18:00 +0100
            Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 20:50 +0100
              Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 21:20 +0100
                Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 21:50 +0100
                Re: iptables question Henning <henning@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-11-13 22:50 +0100
                Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 23:30 +0100
                Re: iptables question Henning <henning@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-11-14 00:30 +0100
                Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 00:50 +0100
                Re: iptables question Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-11-14 13:10 +0100
                Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 20:20 +0100
                Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 23:30 +0100
                Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 01:00 +0100
                Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-14 23:10 +0100
      Re: iptables question Igor Cicimov <icicimov@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 03:10 +0100
        Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 08:20 +0100
          Re: iptables question deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 09:10 +0100
    Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 10:40 +0100
      Re: iptables question Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-13 11:10 +0100
        Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 11:40 +0100
          Re: iptables question Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-13 13:40 +0100
            Re: iptables question Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-11-13 15:00 +0100
              Re: iptables question Igor Cicimov <icicimov@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 03:00 +0100

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