Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking

From	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking
Date	2016-04-29 22:40 +0200
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 01:19:23PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:06:53AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> > A preempted function might not have had a chance to save the frame
>> >> > pointer to the stack yet, which can result in its caller getting skipped
>> >> > on a stack trace.
>> >> >
>> >> > Add a flag to indicate when the task has been preempted so that stack
>> >> > dump code can determine whether the stack trace is reliable.
>> >>
>> >> I think I like this, but how do you handle the rather similar case in
>> >> which a task goes to sleep because it's waiting on IO that happened in
>> >> response to get_user, put_user, copy_from_user, etc?
>> >
>> > Hm, good question.  I was thinking that page faults had a dedicated
>> > stack, but now looking at the entry and traps code, that doesn't seem to
>> > be the case.
>> >
>> > Anyway I think it shouldn't be a problem if we make sure that any kernel
>> > function which might trigger a valid page fault (e.g.,
>> > copy_user_generic_string) do the proper frame pointer setup first.  Then
>> > the stack should still be reliable.
>> >
>> > In fact I might be able to teach objtool to enforce that: any function
>> > which uses an exception table should create a stack frame.
>> >
>> > Or alternatively, maybe set some kind of flag for page faults, similar
>> > to what I did with this patch.
>> >
>>
>> How about doing it the other way around: teach the unwinder to detect
>> when it hits a non-outermost entry (i.e. it lands in idtentry, etc)
>> and use some reasonable heuristic as to whether it's okay to keep
>> unwinding.  You should be able to handle preemption like that, too --
>> the unwind process will end up in an IRQ frame.
>
> How exactly would the unwinder detect if a text address is in an
> idtentry?  Maybe put all the idt entries in a special ELF section?
>

Hmm.

What actually happens when you unwind all the way into the entry code?
 Don't you end up in something that isn't in an ELF function?  Can you
detect that?  Ideally, the unwinder could actually detect that it's
hit a pt_regs struct and report that.  If used for stack dumps, it
could display some indication of this and then continue its unwinding
by decoding the pt_regs.  If used for patching, it could take some
other appropriate action.

I would have no objection to annotating all the pt_regs-style entry
code, whether by putting it in a separate section or by making a table
of addresses.

There are a couple of nasty cases if NMI or MCE is involved but, as of
4.6, outside of NMI, MCE, and vmalloc faults (ugh!), there should
always be a complete pt_regs on the stack before interrupts get
enabled for each entry.  Of course, finding the thing may be
nontrivial in case other things were pushed.  I suppose we could try
to rejigger the code so that rbp points to pt_regs or similar.

--Andy

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[RFC PATCH v2 00/18] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 14/18] livepatch: remove unnecessary object loaded check Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] livepatch/powerpc: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] livepatch/powerpc: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING  thread flag Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-03 11:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] livepatch/powerpc: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING  thread flag Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz> - 2016-05-03 14:10 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 16/18] livepatch: store function sizes Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 20:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 22:20 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 22:30 +0200
          Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 22:40 +0200
            Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 23:30 +0200
              Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-04-30 00:20 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-30 01:00 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-30 02:20 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-30 00:50 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-30 02:10 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-02 16:00 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-05-02 18:00 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-02 19:40 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-05-02 20:20 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-05-02 20:40 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-02 21:50 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-05-02 22:00 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-05-02 22:10 +0200
                Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-05-03 02:50 +0200
                RE: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> - 2016-05-04 17:20 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ  tracking Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 22:20 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 20:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread  flag Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 22:20 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 02/18] x86/asm/head: use a common function for starting CPUs Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] livepatch: separate enabled and patched  states Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-03 11:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] livepatch: separate enabled and patched  states Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-03 15:50 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] x86: dump_trace() error handling Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 22:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] x86: dump_trace() error handling Minfei Huang <mnghuan@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 15:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] x86: dump_trace() error handling Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 16:10 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 23:00 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 20:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 22:30 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-04-29 21:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-29 23:00 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-29 23:40 +0200
          Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-30 01:30 +0200
            Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the  stack for idle tasks Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-04-30 02:20 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 04/18] x86: move _stext marker before head code Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 23:00 +0200
  [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] x86/asm/head: clean up initial stack variable Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-04-28 23:00 +0200
  Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-04 10:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-04 18:00 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz> - 2016-05-05 11:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-05 15:10 +0200
  barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task  consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-04 14:40 +0200
    Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-05-04 16:00 +0200
      Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-04 19:00 +0200
    Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-04 16:20 +0200
      Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-04 19:30 +0200
        Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-05 13:30 +0200
        Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz> - 2016-05-09 17:50 +0200
    Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-04 19:10 +0200
      Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-05 12:30 +0200
  klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-04 16:50 +0200
    Re: klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to  a per-task consistency model Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-05-04 17:00 +0200
    Re: klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-04 20:00 +0200
      Re: klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-05 14:00 +0200
        Re: klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-06 14:40 +0200
          Re: klp_task_patch: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a  per-task consistency model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-09 14:30 +0200
  Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2016-05-06 13:40 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-05-06 14:50 +0200
  Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz> - 2016-05-09 11:50 +0200
  Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency  model Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz> - 2016-05-10 13:50 +0200

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