Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]

From	Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Date	2016-04-19 20:30 +0200
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 05:19:46PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700
> > > Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700
> > > > > Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on
> > > > > > 15 April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy.
> > > > > > Google, as announced months ago, finally ceased support for
> > > > > > its browser on Wheezy.  I double checked just to be sure, and
> > > > > > in the course of that check also discovered "official" Debian
> > > > > > support for Wheezy will cease in a little over a week on 26
> > > > > > April 2016 -- just 3 years after its release.  However, it
> > > > > > will automatically enter LTS until 2018 at which time all
> > > > > > support ceases and EOL "officially" occurs. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe,
> > > > > > Devuan will be viable by then, but I doubt it.  Or Debian will
> > > > > > offer a choice of inits as a standard option during installs
> > > > > > on future releases, but I very much doubt it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > B
> > > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you want a rock solid Debian based system with no systemd -
> > > > > check out Antix distribution.  
> > > > 
> > > > There is no mail list, only a forum. It shows systemd in it's
> > > > package list. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Available if you want it in the repos - not installed. Read the
> > > forum notes, it is designed as non-systemd.
> > 
> > It may well be designed as non-systemd but the systend package is
> > still listed. Why? The lack of a mail list still remains AFAICT.
> 
> Certain systemd libraries are dependencies for things like GNOME or
> udev. So, even if you're using an init other than systemd's which can
> be totally absent from the system, you still need some parts of it
> for some things to work. One of the reasons so many disapprove of it.

Got it. Thanks.

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Thread

Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 00:30 +0200
  Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Paul Trevethan <plist@internode.net> - 2016-04-17 02:00 +0200
    Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 03:00 +0200
      Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 08:20 +0200
        Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:50 +0200
          Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] (caution: thread deviation) Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2016-04-17 14:10 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] (caution: thread  deviation) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 15:30 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] (caution: thread deviation) "John L. Ries" <jries@salford-systems.com> - 2016-04-18 19:10 +0200
          Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-04-17 14:50 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 15:50 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2016-04-18 09:50 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-20 16:30 +0200
        Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 02:10 +0200
          Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 06:50 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 21:10 +0200
    Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-04-17 23:50 +0200
      Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Paul Trevethan <greywolf@internode.net> - 2016-04-18 06:50 +0200
        Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-04-18 18:40 +0200
          Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 02:30 +0200
            Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-04-19 20:30 +0200
  Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Jimmy Johnson <420.christian.single@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 22:10 +0200
    Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 23:50 +0200
      Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 17:10 +0200
    Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 17:10 +0200

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