Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup

From	Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com>
Newsgroups	uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject	Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup
Date	2020-07-25 22:12 +0000
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Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy Hewitt wrote:

> [snip]
> 
> OK I've tried to read the manual at 
> <https://static.mercusys.com/manual/1910080045_Halo_S12_UG_REV1.0.020191227055946.pdf> 
> on the assumption that it describes the device you have.

That’s the one.

> It's clear that they expect you to use only the mesh devices to connect 
> your client devices.  Further, they might expect that you only use WiFi 
> for all the clients although there are two RJ45 sockets on each device.

Yes, I have a BT YouView box plugged into owner in the bedroom. Works fine,

Funnily enough the downstairs YouView box is plugged into the Ethernet on
the PlusNet Hub One, and also works fine, and even more weirdly, I can
remote control it from the App on my iPhone/iPad from the WiFi.

> Even more importantly, they expect you to achieve your internet 
> connection via an Ethernet modem, not a router.

Yes, although it does include instructions for ‘conventional’ internet too.

> You can (probably) configure your Plusnet router as a modem - it might 
> not be easy.

Yeah, they do lock them down quite tight in Firmware (you can’t even add
your own DNS server setting - i.e. OpenDNS).

I do actually have a TP-Link Modem/Router I was using as a WiFi extender
(using Homeplugs), which is not redundant, might be worth trying to
configure that as a modem only (seems to have better options for such
things IIRC.

> But you can use the Plusnet device as router because most applications 
> such as email and web browsing will tolerate the double-NAT that this 
> implies.
> 
> So, this means:
> 
> Disable the WiFi service on the Plusnet router.

Done that already.

> Disconnect everything from the LAN ports on the Plusnet router, and 
> connect ONLY ONE Mesh device.
> 
> Cover the unused LAN ports on the Plusnet router to prevent anybody 
> using them by mistake.
> 
> Set up the Mesh devices as instructed.  Note that the WAN IP address 
> reported by the primary Mesh device will be the IP address issued by the 
> Plusnet router, not a real public IP address at all - unless you 
> configure the Plusnet router into Modem Mode.  

Yeah, I spotted that, the mesh box gets a 192.168.1.x number assigned to
it.

> You should then be able 
> to ping from any client device to any other client device, and to any of 
> the Mesh devices.  But it is likely that you won't be able to ping your 
> Plusnet router - whch makes debugging the internet connection difficult 
> if the need ever arises.

Ok, so as it’s all setup anyway, simply unplug the Ethernet connected
devices from the router, and use WiFi, or the spare Ethernet port on the
Halo box should do it.

I did ping the PlusNet router from the Halo admin page, and it came back
fine, and I can still access the PlusNet router admin pages, even from my
iPad over WiFi.

It’s only been the AppleTV home sharing that’s been a problem.

Cheers.

-- 
Andy H

Thread

Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 09:55 +0000
  Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 20:45 +0100
    Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 20:53 +0000
      Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 22:29 +0100
        Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 22:12 +0000
          Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 22:42 +0000
          Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 08:05 +0100
            Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 07:49 +0000
              Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 10:08 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 12:07 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 12:47 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-26 20:43 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-26 22:49 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 10:42 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-27 15:00 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 16:35 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-27 16:05 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 17:32 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-27 22:04 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 23:10 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 16:28 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 16:30 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-28 17:59 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 18:39 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 12:14 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 13:37 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-28 22:30 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 21:45 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 15:03 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-29 06:38 +0000

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