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Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup

From Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup
Date 2020-07-26 12:07 +0100
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On 26/07/2020 10:08, Graham J wrote:
> Andy Hewitt wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>> It’s only been the AppleTV home sharing that’s been a problem.
>>>
>>> So this might just be a problem with the Apple TV.
>>>
>>> To test this, is it possible to disconnect all the Mesh devices and
>>> connect your Apple TV by Ethernet cable to your router?  Then also
>>> connect whatever device shares with the TV - if necessary by WiFi to the
>>> (re-enabled) WiFi service on the router?
>>>
>>> That way you've completely elimininated the Mesh devices.  Does home
>>> sharing then work?
>>
>> No need, it was working that way before I put the Mesh system in, 
>> albeit as
>> flaky as the HomeSharing system is anyway,
> 
> Why is HomeSharing flaky?  Do other users here see it as flaky?

I've always had trouble getting it to stay working, often having to go 
through a sequence of rebooting my iMac and/or rebooting the Apple TV. 
Once it connects, it's been fine.

>> but yeah, it worked. And it
>> works if I connect it to the Mesh WiFi.
> 
> So why are you saying it doesn't work????????????????????

I didn't, I originally said "I found that the Apple TV won’t connect to 
Home sharing unless I disconnect Ethernet and use Wi-Fi instead."

> It's now obvious from the Mesh documentation that only things on the LAN 
> implemented by the Mesh devices will communicate with each other.

Yes, that much does see, clear, and I understood that a couple of 
replies ago.

>> I think the main problem, now, is perhaps the PlusNet Hub, which is
>> inflexible in setup options. However, now I understand that all a little
>> better, thank you, at least I know where I can start looking if anything
>> does go wrong.
> 
> The limitations of the Plusnet router are not very relevant here.  The 
> only possible problem you have is that double-NAT might cause some 
> websites to break (things like VoIP or video conferencing) in which case 
> using a router that can be configured in Modem mode, or configuring the 
> Mesh master device as an access point only, rather than a router - these 
> might be your options.

That's what I was trying to do, but without success, probably not helped 
by the fact that it can't be administered by Ethernet. I've tried some 
searching, but only get reviews, or TP-Link online documentation.

Looks like the limitations are actually in both systems.

> There's nothing in the Mesh documentation to explain how you would 
> disable the router function of the Mesh master device; but in essence 
> you would simply give it a static IP address in the Plusnet router's 
> subnet then turn off its DHCP server.  You would do this using a 
> computer connected by Ethernet to the Mesh master device, then once 
> configured, connect the mesh master device to the Plusnet router by 
> Ethernet cable.  Other routers can be configured as access points or 
> simple network switches using this technique; it remains to be seen 
> whether the Mesh device can be.

Yes, the documentation doesn't show anything for connecting to the Mesh 
by Ethernet, only Wi-Fi. It looks like it replies on automated 
configuration, and just gets something that kind of works for most stuff.

I can see why this kit is so cheap, but I at least know how to 
workaround it. If I have to inclination, I might try using the TP-Link 
router instead, as that does have options for AP/Bridge etc.

Cheers.

-- 
Andy H

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Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 09:55 +0000
  Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 20:45 +0100
    Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 20:53 +0000
      Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 22:29 +0100
        Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 22:12 +0000
          Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-25 22:42 +0000
          Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 08:05 +0100
            Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 07:49 +0000
              Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 10:08 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 12:07 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 12:47 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-26 20:43 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-26 22:49 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 10:42 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-27 15:00 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 16:35 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-27 16:05 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 17:32 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-27 22:04 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-27 23:10 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 16:28 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 16:30 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-28 17:59 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 18:39 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 12:14 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 13:37 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2020-07-28 22:30 +0100
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-28 21:45 +0000
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-28 15:03 -0700
                Re: Homesharing problems, maybe network setup Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-29 06:38 +0000

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