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Re: New iMac belated upgrade

From Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: New iMac belated upgrade
Date 2020-07-19 13:24 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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nospam wrote:
> In article <rf19cf$9u4$1@dont-email.me>, Graham J
> <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Historically Macs used to need custom firmware in their hard disks - I
>> don't know whether that is still true ...
> 
> that has never been true.
> 
> macs have *always* worked with industry standard hard drives.

The discussion at 
<https://superuser.com/questions/114577/what-makes-an-apple-hard-drive-special> 
would suggest otherwise, specifically with regard to temperature sensing.

Also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_HD_SC_Setup> says "The 
version of Apple HD SC Setup that shipped with the classic Mac OS was 
only able to manipulate hard disks that featured Apple ROMs." although a 
third-party patch did allow a work-around.

> 
>> Others will tell you how to get the Mac apart.
>>
>> Being a Mac, you should be able to install the OS onto the SSD via
>> download or a restore from Time Machine, rather than the horrible "clone
>> disk" process that is forced on Windows users.
> 
> cloning works quite well on a mac.

My point being that getting a Windows OS on a virgin disk us usually a 
pain and requires the appropriate (set of) disks from the manufacturer, 
which will be complete with all the necessary drivers.  If the virgin 
disk is simple an upgrade (as with HDD to SSD) then the clone process 
usually works and is much simpler.

By contrast I'm told that one can download an Apple OS onto a virgin 
disk in one easy step (which might of course take several hours); so 
this obviates the need to clone.  i've no personal experience of this.


-- 
Graham J

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New iMac belated upgrade PeterFJ <pfjames2000@gmail.com> - 2020-07-19 11:17 +0100
  Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-19 12:04 +0100
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 07:55 -0400
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-19 13:24 +0100
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 09:05 -0400
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-19 18:59 +0100
            Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 16:50 -0400
              Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-19 22:52 +0100
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 18:13 -0400
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 08:02 +0100
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-20 08:56 +0000
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-20 08:31 -0400
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 14:40 +0100
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-20 14:59 +0000
                Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-19 22:16 +0000
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-07-19 18:10 +0100
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-19 20:45 +0100
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2020-07-20 00:17 +0200
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 18:19 -0400
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-19 22:51 +0000
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 19:01 -0400
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-19 23:12 +0000
            Re: New iMac belated upgrade ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2020-07-20 01:47 +0200
              Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 20:03 -0400
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2020-07-20 01:26 +0200
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 19:31 -0400
  Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 07:55 -0400
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-19 12:03 +0000
  Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-19 20:38 +0000
  Re: New iMac belated upgrade ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2020-07-20 00:07 +0200
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 18:13 -0400
    Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-19 23:12 +0000
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2020-07-20 01:44 +0200
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-19 20:03 -0400
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2020-07-20 00:22 +0000
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2020-07-20 00:23 +0000
      Re: New iMac belated upgrade black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-07-20 09:32 +0100
        Re: New iMac belated upgrade Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-20 08:58 +0000
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-07-20 10:57 +0100
          Re: New iMac belated upgrade black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-07-20 11:51 +0100

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