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Re: x86_64 vs i386

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On 03/20/2016 04:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 20 March 2016 15:35:54 David Christensen wrote:
>> I'm curious about "2 new drives".  What's the intended purpose of the
>> machine?  What drive(s) are already installed?  Any spares on the
>> shelf?
>
> Some, but with 60k plus spinning hours on them.
>
>> And, what about the USB 3.0 flash-as-system-drive trick?
>>
> In reverse order, this old Asus mobo doesn't boot from usb.  Old also
> means its sata is 3Gb at best, and the USB is 2.1 max. 100 meg Cat5 to
> the printer is faster.
>
> I haven't found a new mobo that doesn't send everything in this machine
> to the recycle bin.  So I'd be out another $400 in installed cards as
> this board is all pci. 4 slots, 7 sata, 7 usb's, and my usb tree looks
> like a weeping willow, most of which would be obsolete too. 1 4 port
> external hub, 1 7 port external hub, a 10 meter hub to some stuff in the
> basement with a 7 port on the end of it.  And a pci video card, a pci
> firewire, and an hdPC3000 digital tv card.  That stuff is all toast when
> the bus turns into pci-e.
>
> Drive #2 will be a new drive for amanda to use, after I run a mktapes
> script on it to make about 60 ea 20+Gig virtual tapes.  Drive 1 will be
> the new install, which will get most of my home dir copied to it, then
> the former drive 1 will be remounted as /dev/sdc so once the copies have
> been made, and reformatted so half the drive is /home and half is /opt.
> Let drive 1 BE the system drive, but I want my stuff better isolated.  I
> did have 4 drives in here at one time, but the drives got bigger faster
> than my own storage needs, which are now occasionally feeling the pinch.
>
> Running the trinity gui, and quite a boat load of other stuff including
> my web page out of /opt, that would be one less recovery worry when a
> drive upchucks.

So, "everything plus the kitchen sink".  (Did someone mention LinuxCNC?) 
  ;-)


A few years back, I built a new high-end desktop/ low-end server and 
tried consolidating everything into virtual machines running on that one 
box.  One powerful, quiet machine was nice when everything worked and I 
wasn't messing with it.  But when something broke or I did mess with it, 
I frequently ran into circular dependencies and had to fix and/or mess 
with everything.  While doing so, I was dead in the water.  It was a 
memorable lesson in "too many eggs in one basket."


Now I'm running three boxes locally -- one desktop, one file server, and 
one maintenance/ backup/ archive/ image server.  For you, I'd recommend 
trying that arrangement plus one more box for your machine shop.  I 
don't know what region you're in (I'm near Silicon Valley), but I see 
used computers at good prices on Craig's List fairly often.


David

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x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 18:50 +0100
  Re: x86_64 vs i386 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-03-20 19:00 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 19:50 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:00 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 20:10 +0100
        Stupid ERRATUM was Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:10 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-03-20 20:00 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 20:00 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:20 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:00 +0100
  Re: x86_64 vs i386 Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-03-20 19:00 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-23 10:10 +0100
  Re: x86_64 vs i386 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-03-20 20:40 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-03-20 23:40 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 00:10 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-03-21 05:30 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 09:50 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-03-21 18:50 +0100
  Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 16:00 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-03-21 16:20 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 17:00 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 00:30 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 00:30 +0100
          Re: x86_64 vs i386 Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 01:10 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Frank McCormick <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2016-03-22 02:20 +0100
  Re: x86_64 vs i386 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-03-21 16:00 +0100
    Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 17:00 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-03-21 17:10 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 22:20 +0100
          Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-21 22:50 +0100
      Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 00:30 +0100
        Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-22 02:10 +0100
          Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 18:20 +0100
            Re: x86_64 vs i386 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-22 20:00 +0100
              Re: x86_64 vs i386 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 23:50 +0100
                Re: x86_64 vs i386  now firefoxish Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-23 00:20 +0100
                Re: x86_64 vs i386  now firefoxish Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-23 03:30 +0100
                Re: x86_64 vs i386 now firefoxish Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 03:40 +0100

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