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Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release

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On 5 July 2016 at 08:40, Samuel Henrique <samueloph@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2016-07-05 7:43 GMT-03:00 Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com>:
>>
>> We're getting to the point where there's a fairly pressing need for
>> arm64 - the more useful hardware is starting to get a wider distribution
>> and we don't really have anything for people who want to run Debian
>> that gets them a supported system with an upgrade path.
>
>
> We have Debian Stretch, which is what i recommend to anybody who wants do
> install Debian as a desktop.
>
> I understand the difference of running Debian Testing and Debian Stable with
> some backported packages, but is it really worth it?
> Shouldn't we discuss more the usability of Testing as a solid release, or
> maybe start doing a stable release and another release kinda like Testing
> but with more stability guarantees?
>
> I'm not really sure, but i think opensuse has a model like that.
>
...
> They always end up using Debian Testing, knowing that the main risk comes
> when the unfreeze happens and that while the freeze is rolling they will
> have a more stable debian (compared to when unfreezed).

I personally like to test stable+1 on my laptop by changing stable to
stable+1_codename about a month after the freeze happens; it then
transitions to stable automatically, and no trouble with the unfreeze.
As for building off of a [semi]rolling release model, from testing,
I'm pessimistic because of historical precedents for success.  For
example: http://cut.debian.net/
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3yeg6z/what_happened_with_debian_cut/

Tanglu seems to have stalled, and SolydXK is now stable+bpos, but
maybe they will go back to using stable+1 once it freezes? And a
recent discussion on running testing ->
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=128598&start=0

Of course, I'd also love to see it work! :-)  I'm guessing it requires
a substantial investment of time and a very dedicated—and large
enough—team.

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-04 15:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 18:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 19:40 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 20:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 22:10 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 00:40 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 02:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release "Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com> - 2016-07-05 09:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 10:10 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 18:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 05:20 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-09 13:10 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:20 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-09-08 01:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-05 20:20 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 21:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 09:40 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 10:00 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-04 16:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 11:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 11:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:40 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-07-05 11:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-05 12:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Samuel Henrique <samueloph@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 14:50 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 04:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Martin Zobel-Helas <zobel@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 14:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-05 21:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-06 17:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-07-06 20:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-07 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Timo Jyrinki <timo.jyrinki@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 10:20 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 13:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 15:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 04:00 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 05:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 16:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-09-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 15:10 +0200

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