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Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release

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On 07/04/2016 03:01 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some
> other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release,
> similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* just
> like a normal jessie release, but with a few key updates:
> 
>  * backports kernel
>  * rebuilt d-i to match that kernel
>  * X drivers
>  * ... (other things that might be needed for consistency)
> 
> all rolled up with a small installer image build (netinst, maybe DVD#1).

Why would you call it "Jessie + 1/2"? Wouldn't it be a better idea
to regularly have a "backports installer" netinst image? So when
8.6 (or 8.7 if it takes longer) comes around, there'll be an image,
part of the point release, that will contain the backports kernel
that's current at that time, plus the installer will enable backports
automatically, plus it will install a preferences.d file that will
enable pulling kernel + X11 drivers from backports. (But not other
things.)

This could then be a regular part of the released installer images,
and any new major release (e.g. Stretch 9.0) would enable the
preferences.d file + backports automatically, but would still use
the regular kernel at that point (because there'd be no backports
then).

That way, you'd have a little more work in the installer in creating
an image that uses a backports kernel, but there'd be no need in
having to support a new release in addition to Jessie, because the
installed system would be equivalent to Jessie + upgrade kernel to
backports + remove old kernel package. Which is already something
that people do _now_.

Regards,
Christian

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Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-04 15:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 15:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-04 18:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 19:40 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-10 20:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 22:10 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 00:40 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 02:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release "Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com> - 2016-07-05 09:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2016-07-05 10:10 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 18:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 05:20 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-09 13:10 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:20 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-09-08 01:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-05 20:20 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 21:10 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
          Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 09:40 +0200
            Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 10:00 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
              Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-05 10:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-04 16:10 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 10:40 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-07-05 11:00 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 11:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:40 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-07-05 11:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com> - 2016-07-05 12:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Samuel Henrique <samueloph@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 14:50 +0200
        Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 04:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Martin Zobel-Helas <zobel@debian.org> - 2016-07-05 14:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-05 21:40 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-07-06 00:50 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Breno Leitao <brenohl@br.ibm.com> - 2016-07-06 17:50 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-07-06 20:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2016-07-07 10:10 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Timo Jyrinki <timo.jyrinki@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 10:20 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 13:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi> - 2016-07-07 12:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 15:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 04:00 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
  Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 05:50 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 16:20 +0200
    Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2016-09-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 15:10 +0200

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