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Re: Push Gravity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Push Gravity
Date 2019-01-06 21:30 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “And since when is levitation by sound gravity?”
> Here Michael- from Wiki
> ‘Levitation refers to raising an object against the force of gravity ’
> Levitation automatically infers ‘against gravity’.
> 
> You and Odd have a lot of trouble with the meaning of simple words. 

And the force a table pushes upward on an ashtray is “against gravity”. As
is the string that holds up a fishing weight and hook: against gravity. 

Levitation simply means an upward directed force that opposes the downward
gravitational force on an object, when that force is not applied by some
other solid body. 

So a helium balloon rises not because gravity has been removed. (In fact a
helium balloon on the moon would fall to the ground as quickly as a dropped
hammer.) It rises because the surrounding air exerts an upward buoyant
force due to the difference in air pressure from the top to the bottom of
the balloon, and that buoyant force happens to be larger than the
gravitation force downward. 

You are very confused about basic high school physics. 

> Something to do with your QM indoctrination? Spin isn’t spin, etc?
> 

QM has nothing to do with this. And no, explanations in science are not
required to use the same commonplace language you like. In fact that is
counterproductive, which is exactly why physics textbooks do not cater to
your desires. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800
  Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 01:45 +0000
    Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:02 -0800
      Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 02:37 +0000
        Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800
          Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-30 22:09 -0600
            Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:14 +0000
              Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 09:48 -0600
          Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 04:57 +0000
            Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:19 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:23 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:34 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 00:26 -0800
            Re: Push Gravity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 00:31 -0800
            Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 03:20 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 05:06 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:30 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 08:42 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:27 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:07 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:19 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:25 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 12:53 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:08 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:44 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:15 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 18:36 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-02 22:54 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 11:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 14:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:40 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 22:49 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 12:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 09:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 18:23 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:04 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 19:59 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:27 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 20:18 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 12:45 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 11:30 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 13:20 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:30 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 16:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 17:47 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:47 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-05 23:08 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:19 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 21:01 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:56 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 22:37 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 06:31 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 16:54 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 09:30 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 18:27 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:30 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:38 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:45 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 14:04 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:46 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 14:05 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:44 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:53 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 02:11 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:57 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:55 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 01:49 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-09 04:48 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 15:27 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:47 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 10:58 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 16:21 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:38 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:54 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:35 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:51 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:02 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:04 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-07 01:34 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:07 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 11:55 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:32 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:32 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:37 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 13:21 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:30 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:52 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:39 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 01:27 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 17:50 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:38 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:27 -0800
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 09:31 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-08 05:00 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:57 -0800
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:50 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 00:00 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:00 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-01 13:36 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:24 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:45 -0800
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                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:57 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:23 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
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