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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Shorthand ~> pointers |
| Date | 2018-12-26 05:32 -0500 |
| Organization | Liberty Software Foundation |
| Message-ID | <pvvl8v$5tn$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 12/26/2018 1:20 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 12/24/2018 3:55 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On 12/24/2018 6:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> So, there are really nice people, that just happen to be gay, burning in
>>> hell right now?
>>
>> No. The Bible teaches that everyone who dies goes into a type of sleep.
>> It is not natural sleep, but a different sleep, but it is similar. On
>> the final day, each person will be awakened, summoned by name, called
>> before the Great White Throne judgment, where each soul will be judged
>> by the things they did here.
>>
>> The books of the records recording the actions and events in each per-
>> son's life will be opened. The dead will be judged according to those
>> things written down, which will be their full lives recorded in every
>> detail. Thoughts, emotions, the reasons of the heart, the hidden things
>> people kept on the inside while saying other things with their mouths.
>> Every "secret sin," every thing people did thinking no-one else saw.
>> All of it will be brought to light.
>>
>> People will be awakened from their post-death sleep, and they will be
>> judged based on what they did, and specifically what they did or didn't
>> do with Christ.
>
> Interesting. I thought that to be absent from the body is to be present with
> the Lord.
That is true for Christians, for they are already alive eternally because
their sin has been forgiven, the required punishment of sin (eternal death)
has been taken away.
It's what it means to be "born again," to be born of the spirit, eternal
life, no longer dead, no longer flesh-only, and we no longer need have a
fear of death because we are already alive eternally, and this world is
not our home.
> There is no queue, I think that the infinite God can have a
> personal conversation with multiple entities, human or not, at the same time,
> and never forget anything involved. Afaict, God remembers it forever,
> verbatim... Think of God as having infinite fractal like compound insect like
> senses, with infinite resolution, with a perfect memory that never forgets,
> and is always fair because it knows the truth at all times. It was never
> created, and will never pass away. It is as it is.
For the unsaved person, they go to sleep. Their spirit is not reunited
with their body until Judgment Day. They appear before God to give an
account of their life, are found guilty in that "courtroom," and are
literally cast headlong into the Lake of Fire.
Read Revelation 20, specifically verses 11+:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20&version=KJV
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from
whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was
found no place for them.
==> 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the
books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the
book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which
were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and
hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were
judged every man according to their works.
==> 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the
second death.
==> 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire.
Reading earlier in that chapter, you see that those who "died in Christ"
(died to self) are re-born spiritually, and they do not face judgment,
but are already passed from death to life. They come back with Christ
and reign 1,000 years during Christ's "day of rest" here on this Earth,
after the 6,000 years of labor, and 1,000 years of rest, following God's
pattern of creation for creating the world in six days, and then resting
on the seventh.
In addition, as with natural sleep, are you aware of the hours passing
between the time you go to sleep and when you wake up? With this type
of sleep it is similar. Those who died will see these events happen:
1) They die.
2) They are summoned by name in Heaven to give an account of
their Earthly life.
3) They appear before God.
What they are unaware of is possibly 1) because Paul records that
the person he describes who was called up to the third Heaven could
not determine if they were in the body or in the spirit because it
was so real, yet it was so different from Earth that he knew it was
even unlawful to speak of the things seen/discussed there, and a
missing 1.5) step where they go to sleep.
Those people who died throughout history without being saved will
all be summoned on the same day. They will wake up, be given their
eternal faculties, go to God's court at the Great White Throne
Judgment, and then give the account of their life. They will self-
condemn as they recount unendingly the sinful things they did. They
will, on that day, finally realize that it's all true, because their
spirit will know the truth, and their eyes will be seeing it, but
the weight of their conviction will be pressing upon them. The
Bible records "there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
It's why we are to call on the Lord today and ask forgiveness. For
the Christian, he/she comes to God broken, humbled, realizing they
are a sinner, feeling guilt and conviction over their sin. They
bow down before the throne (figuratively, and sometimes literally),
and admit they are a sinner, admit that they need Jesus, ask Him
to forgive their sin, to which He does when it is a sincere form
of repentance and asking.
That person then has their spirit come alive in that moment. They
are then restored to their true nature (soul no longer under judg-
ment, spirit alive, still attached to this in-sin physical body,
to receive their permanent eternal incorruptible body after they
leave this world), and they then move in this world different than
the world and the people of the world, proclaiming the merits of
Christ, of loving one another, of helping one another, of giving
to one another, etc.
It's why new Christians change so much. They are guided by the
Holy Spirit communing with their spirit, and they literally change
everything about their life initially. But the enemy does not
slack, and he regroups and analyzes and comes back at people. He
targets their flesh and tries to find ways to pull them back in
to following their flesh, so they will not be focused on the
spirit, will not be following after spiritual things, but will be
weakened by the flesh.
It's like kryptonite for Christians. It takes away all our right
and true focus on God, for the flesh reaps only to corruption,
and the spirit reaps only unto life everlasting, to right service
to God, to a true love for our fellow man (saved, and unsaved).
-----
Do not take my word for any of this, Chris. Pick up a Bible and
read for yourself. Learn personally what God teaches us. And
when you have questions ask and you will find that God provides
for your questions adequately, when they are sincere questions
from a truth-seeking heart. But to mockers, double-minded men
and women ... to them there will be no answer given, until the
day of judgment.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 12:23 -0500
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 10:20 -0500
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 10:42 -0500
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 23:49 -0800
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 16:38 -0800
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 13:42 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 16:23 -0800
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 20:26 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 23:54 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-23 12:43 +0000
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 12:15 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-23 17:24 +0000
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 07:53 -0500
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:17 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-24 15:36 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:43 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-24 15:46 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 14:16 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-12-24 22:36 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 18:35 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 15:44 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 18:55 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-25 22:20 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 05:32 -0500
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Re: You are so full of shit (Was: Shorthand ~> pointers) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-26 15:21 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-24 08:26 +1300
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 15:02 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-28 08:21 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-12-25 03:56 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 23:55 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-12-25 10:14 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 10:36 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2018-12-24 14:22 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 15:47 -0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-12-23 16:31 +0800
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 08:28 -0500
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-12-21 01:14 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 03:23 +0100
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-12-21 09:45 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-21 12:05 +0100
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 21:24 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-12-21 21:47 +0000
Re: Shorthand ~> pointers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-22 16:09 +0100
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:48 +0300
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Re: Shorthand ~> pointers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:26 -0500
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