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Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?
Date 2018-11-19 13:33 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> >> >3. Every SR observer imagine that he is at rest wrt the aether (the
>> >> > inertial frame of SR)....and that's the origin of Einstein's P2.

>> >> No, Stupid Ken, you are lying. Why do you lie?
>> >> Einstein explicitly wrote: "The introduction of a 'luminiferous ether'
>> >> will prove to be superfluous inasmuch as the view here to be developed
>> >> will not require an 'absolutely stationary space' provided with special
>> >> properties, nor assign a velocity-vector to a point of the empty space in
>> >>which electromagnetic processes take place."

>> >Einstein was wrong.

>> Why do you assert (without any proof or evidence) that Einstein was wrong?

>> > He failed to come up with an aether that satisfies the
>> >MMX (such as the E-Matrix)

>> Where was there any requirement for Einstein to come up with ANY aether
>> at all, much less an aether that satisfied the MMX?

>The requirement is that without the specialized aether there is no way 
>to explain:
>1.  "ACTION AT A DISTANCE";

Fields explain it just fine.

>2.  WHYTHE SPEED OF LIGHT IS ISOTROPIC?

Einstein's SR explains that.

>3.  WHAT CAUSES GRAVITY?

GR explain it just fine.
Or fields, a different view.

>4.  WHY AN OBJECT HAVE MOMENTUM?

No need for an aether.

So, we can conclude Einstein was correct when considering aether to be
an obsolete concept well over 100 years ago.

>> Perhaps it was expected by scientists of the time to involve an aether,
>> but there was no such actual requirement.

>See above.

So no need for an aether. Gotcha.

>> Einstein, instead, thought outside the 'aether' box, and showed that his
>> results were correct if his P1 and P2 were actually true.

>No, he didn't think outside the box.

He certainly did, since the existence of an aether was well established
at the time.

>  He merely found a different way to describe the aether frame by 
>renaming the aether frame

Stupid Ken, what part of: "The introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will
prove to be superfluous inasmuch as the view here to be developed will not
require an 'absolutely stationary space' provided with special properties,
nor assign a velocity-vector to a point of the empty space in which
electromagnetic processes take place." don't you understand?
No aether in Einstein's SR! None!!

>as the inertial frame. That's why SR have the same math as LET and LET is 
>an aether theory.

No, Stupid Ken. Einstein INDEPENDENTLY derived the Lorentz math, WITHOUT
ANY AETHER.

>> That is why Einstein is remembered over 100 years after his papers, and
>> while Stupid Ken will quickly be forgotten.

>So far, I seen no refutation of Model mechanics.

Except for just about everyone's response to it here!

>> >so he invented the inertial frame

>> The inertial frame was invented LONG before Einstein. By Galileo, in fact.

>Yeah Einstein just added constant light speed to get SR.

Constant light speed was known during Einstein's time. What Einstein did 
was take that as a postulate as well as taking P1 as a postulate (which
rules out any special aether frame, BTW) and deriving the math of SR.

>> >the aether frame. But he failed again: he failed to realize that relative
>> >motion between two bodies is the vector difference of their absolute
>> >motions.

>> Not believing in, or even knowing about, your unsupported assertion is
>> definitely not any sort of failure.

>It's not an unsupported assertion. No absolute motion, no relative motion.

That's an unsupported assertion, Stupid Ken.

>> Nope, Einstein INDEPENDENTLY derived the Lorentz transform math.  And he
>> EXPLICITLY said he wasn't involving any aether. He apparently didn't even
>> know about Lorentz's work.

>He assumed the aether frame properties for his derivation.

No, Stupid Ken. He explicitly stated he wasn't using any aether!

 That's why he ended up with the LET math.

No, he INDEPENDENTLY derived the SR math. The Lorentz work had the right
idea for the wrong reason as stated below:

>> Lorentz must have worked backwards. He tried to derive something that
>> would work in explaining the MMX while keeping the aether concept. He had
>> no idea why his kludge worked, he just knew that it did, somehow.

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                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 14:22 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-21 08:32 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:30 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-21 10:46 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-22 07:31 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-22 16:07 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 18:43 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-22 05:10 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-20 18:11 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-20 07:44 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 08:15 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 17:54 +0100
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-20 10:43 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-20 18:26 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-21 06:58 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:08 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-21 16:15 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-21 16:31 +0000
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