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Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?
Date 2018-11-21 16:15 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:26:17 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> >The observer is stationary in his own frame is an oxymoron statement.
>> >Stationary wrt what?

>> Stationary in his own rest frame. By definition, the observer defines the
>> frame.

>Only an observer at rest in the ether can claim that he is at rest in his won frame.....

What? Do you have no clue what a reference frame is? Do you have no clue 
what relative motion is? This is HIGH SCHOOL physics and you don't 
understand it, yet you are trying to tell us that YOU have the answers? 
WTF?

Or are you just inventing your own definitions (which conflict with those
of science) again?

> but no observer is at rest in the ether.

Since there is no aether in SR, irrelevant.

>Also no moving SR observer is at rest in the ether so he can't claim the 
>exclusive properties of the ether frame.

Again, no aether in SR, so no exclusive properties to claim.

>> >when an observer declares that he is stationary means that he is claiming
>> >the aether frame.

>> That contradicts your earlier claim that all objects are moving in your
>> aether. If an observer is moving in your aether, and defines his rest
>> frame as stationary relative to himself,

>No sir, I said that there is no rest frame for any observer moving in the ether.

By writing that, you prove that you don't even know what the definition of
a rest frame is.  A rest frame of an observer is the frame created such 
that the observer is stationary (and typically at the origin).

Back to Odd's face/nose example. You can define a frame in which your face
is stationary. Your face is always at rest in this frame, by definition.
When you measure the speed of your nose in this frame, you always will
get 0 motion/stationary since your nose is attached to your face.
Now this frame may or may not be inertial, for example, if you get on a
roller coaster, this frame will not be inertial. And other people/observers
will see your face/this reference frame move about as you move about.
SR describe relations between objects as they move around relative to each 
other.

Notice that I did not once mention "aether" in the previous paragraph.
Nor did I need to. SR stands for Special RELATIVITY, it's all about
RELATIVE motion.

I think Odd said you have Halliday and Resnick. Get it out and look up
reference frame and Newton's First Law in its index, and READ it.
If you don't, borrow a high school physics book from the library and do
the same.

>> this frame MUST be moving in
>> your aether frame, so he CANNOT be "claiming the aether frame"!

>Although an observer is not at rest in the ether  but he can still use the
>ether frame math to predict the clock rate of a clock moving wrt him

Not in SR. SR states aether is irrelevant or nonexistant, so no aether 
frame math.

>An IRT observer recognizes that he is not at rest in the ether so he 
>predicts that a clock moving wrt him can run slow or fast....but only one 
>of these predictions is correct.

So IRT cannot make an exact prediction. That's yet another reason why IRT
is a complete failure.

In addition, IRT cannot deal with my "three rocket" example I posted a
couple times in similar threads.  With two observers, you may claim that
if A's clock is slow by B's clock then B's clock is fast by A's clock and
all is well. With 3 moving clocks...FAIL.

>I said tat IRT is a complete theory of relativity and it includes LET and 
>SR as subsets.

If SR is a subset of IRT, that means IRT agrees with everything SR says,
at least as a limit, but IRT has something additional to say.

Like how SR is (really) a subset of GR. GR agrees with everything SR has 
to say when there is no gravity (SR's domain). In addition, GR has lots
to say when there *is* gravity.

>> >The observers are moving within the aether. There is no aether frame
>> >because no observer is at rest in the aether to set it up.

>> You are very, very confused. First you claim there are an infinite number
>> of aether frames, then you claim there is only one aether frame, now you
>> claim there aren't any aether frames!

>> You can't remember what you wrote two minutes earlier? Alzheimers?

Please clarify your beliefs. How many aether frames are there in IRT?

1) None;
2) One;
3) Five;
4) Infinitely many with different origins but stationary wrt each other;
5) I haven't decided yet.

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                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-20 18:56 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 14:22 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-21 08:32 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:30 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-21 10:46 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-22 07:31 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-22 16:07 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 18:43 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-22 05:10 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-20 18:11 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-20 07:44 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 08:15 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 17:54 +0100
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-20 10:43 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-20 18:26 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-21 06:58 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:08 -0800
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-21 16:15 +0000
                Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-21 16:31 +0000
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