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Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time?
Date 2018-11-18 19:45 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:15:32 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:30:34 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 7:02:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 2:45:44 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not that simple:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Maxwell's medium was the aether....not air as you seem to suggest. If 
>>>>>>>>> Maxwell meant that the medium was air then he was wrong. You mistake
>>>>>>>>> was that you treated Maxwell as an infallible person.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not sure how established an aether concept was at Maxwell's time.  
>>>>>>>> Remember, aether was invented because scientists thought light propogated
>>>>>>>> like sound waves.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2. Light travel at constant speed relative to the aether.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> According to which theory? Not according to SR, of course.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The inertial frame of SR is just another name for the aether frame. If
>>>>>>> you don’t agree then name a property of the inertial frame that is
>>>>>>> exclusive to the inertial frame that the aether frame doesn’t have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s easy. The uniqueness of the ether frame. There’s only one. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No idiot, you can set up an infinite number of ether frames at different
>>>>> locations in the stationary ether.....
>>>> 
>>>> No you can’t. Frames have infinite extent. No boundary. Any point is in all
>>>> frames. 
>>> 
>>> Yes you can......any observer can set up a coordinate system at his
>>> location in the ether. Any point is in his coordinate system.
>> 
>> Those reference frames have zero speed relative to each other. Not true for
>> the class of inertial reference frames. 
> 
> Sigh....the observer who set up the reference frame has speed relative to
> all bodies in the universe.

But not relative to any other ether frame. 
This is what distinguishes the ether frame from inertial frames. 

Inertial frames can have speed relative to each other. The ether frame
cannot. 

>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There is only ONE ether frame, in which the ether is stationary at ALL
>>>> points in space. 
>>> 
>>> No, any coordinate system set up in any location in the ether is an ether
>>> frame. The ether is stationary while all objects (observers) are moving within it.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> different observers merely set up a coordinate system in the stationary
>>>>> ether at his location and viola you have an inertial frame.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are an infinite number of inertial frames. Certainly more than one. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an infinite number of locations in the stationary ether that you
>>>>> can set up a coordinate system and such coordinate system is called an
>>>>> inertial frame. So what is your point?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3. Every SR observer imagine that he is at rest wrt the aether (the 
>>>>>>>> inertial frame of SR)....and that's the origin of Einstein's P2.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, Stupid Ken, you are lying. Why do you lie?
>>>>>>>> Einstein explicitly wrote: "The introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' 
>>>>>>>> will prove to be superfluous inasmuch as the view here to be developed 
>>>>>>>> will not require an 'absolutely stationary space' provided with special 
>>>>>>>> properties, nor assign a velocity-vector to a point of the empty space in 
>>>>>>> which electromagnetic processes take place.”
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Einstein was wrong. He failed to come up with an aether that satisfies
>>>>>>> the MMX (such as the E-Matrix) so he invented the inertial frame in place
>>>>>>> of the aether frame. But he failed again: he failed to realize that
>>>>>>> relative motion between two bodies is the vector difference of
>>>>>>> their absolute motions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is no aether being used in SR, so a statement like "he is at rest
>>>>>>>> wrt the aether” is quite obviously wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The inertial frame of SR is just another name for the aether frame. SR
>>>>>>> math copied the LET math and the LET math is based on the existence of the aether.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4. Therefore the speed of light is constant wrt every SR observer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does not follow. This is just one reason why your IRT is a complete total
>>>>>>>> disaster.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That’s because you are a moron......eh!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2. WHY THE LT ARE BULLSHIT
>>>>>>>>>> Lorentz imagined a fixed frame of reference, the "aether
>>>>>>>>>> frame", in which light moved with its characteristic
>>>>>>>>>> velocity c.  All experiments failed to detect this imagined
>>>>>>>>>> "aether frame",
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Because physicists failed to realize that a structured aether like the 
>>>>>>>>> E-Matrix can indeed give constant light speed in all directions. In fact 
>>>>>>>>> the following past experiments did detected absolute motion if the aether 
>>>>>>>>> is the E-Matrix: The Photoelectric experiment; the Compton Shift 
>>>>>>>>> experiment; the double-slit experiment.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, Stupid Ken. You NEVER provided ANY calculations to support such claims.
>>>>>>>> All you did was try to horn in on others' successes in explaining them, 
>>>>>>>> with empty claims "I can do that, too!".  If you really could, SHOW US THE
>>>>>>>> MATH!!! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Moron, there are calculations in the following link:
>>>>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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  Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 16:41 +0000
    Re: Is a clock second a universal interval of time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-03 12:54 -0700
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