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Re: 8MB sms pic

From chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: 8MB sms pic
Date 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <pskfic$trq$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (18 earlier) <131120181349204966%nospam@nospam.invalid> <psgmb0$hm8$1@dont-email.me> <141120180915002110%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pshq7r$dha$1@dont-email.me> <141120181433355344%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <pshq7r$dha$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> hijack your phone and game over.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not so easy these days. But still useless without passwords.
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's very easy these days and getting easier. 
>>>> 
>>>> Only if the target is a fool by reusing passwords. 
>>> 
>>> that helps, but is not required. there is sufficient information about
>>> people to pretend to be the target and pwn all sorts of stuff. 
>>> 
>>> not only are data breaches becoming more common, but people voluntarily
>>> give out key information on various social media sites or other venues.
>>> they usually give real answers to the insecurity questions, which is
>>> almost always public information, including mother's maiden name, first
>>> car that they owned, etc. 
>>> 
>>> and sometimes all that's needed is just a phone number:
>>> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/tmobile-bug-let-anyone-see-any-customers-
>>> account-details/>
>>> A bug in T-Mobile's website let anyone access the personal account
>>> details of any customer with just their cell phone number.
>>> ...
>>> The returned data included a customer's full name, postal address,
>>> billing account number, and in some cases information about tax
>>> identification numbers. The data also included customers' account
>>> information, such as if a bill is past-due or if the customer had
>>> their service suspended.
>>> The data also included references to account PINs used by customers
>>> as a security question when contacting phone support. Anyone could
>>> use that information to hijack accounts.
>> 
>> Irrelevant. 
> 
> not at all. 
> 
> until that exploit was disclosed, t-mobile customers were at risk of
> being pwned with nothing more than a phone number.
> 
> anyone who has someone's (t-mobile) cellphone number (or can find out
> what it is with a simple search) could easily pwn someone.
> 
> and if you think that's the only such exploit, think again. 
> 
>>>> A practical example of
>>>> how not easy it is...
>>>> 
>>>> http://infozonic.com/2018/11/06/operation-luigi-how-i-hacked-my-friend-with
>>>> out-her-noticing/
>>> 
>>> looks like he was successful.
>> 
>> I didn't say otherwise. You said it was "very easy". It took this guy weeks
>> and some quite elaborate phishing just to get access to an unused hotmail
>> account and then eventually Twitter & LinkedIn. For someone he knew and
>> thus would know what would work. 
> 
> that's only because he isn't particularly good at it, and was probably
> the very first time he tried.

Ok knowitall. How would you do it better?

>> It is far from easy and real exploiters will always focus on the low
>> hanging fruit as it's not worth the extra effort. Do the basics and you're
>> not going to get hacked. 
> 
> it requires quite a bit more than the basics to raise the bar to where
> one can be reasonably safe, but even then, it's still possible.

No it doesn't. I don't need to outrun the Lion, i just need to outrun you.
It was ever thus. If there are people who don't use 2fa then SMS 2fa is
probably good enough. 

> however, if someone has you in their crosshairs, there's very little
> anyone can do. you *will* be pwned.

That's not news. It's the same offline. If someone really wants your car
they will get it.

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8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-08 10:52 -0500
  Re: 8MB sms pic KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:11 -0700
    Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-08 22:31 +0000
      Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-09 17:07 -0500
        Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-10 02:36 +0000
          Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 11:34 +0000
            Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-11 11:47 +0000
              Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:08 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:23 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 12:37 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 19:19 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:34 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 07:53 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 08:11 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:29 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 12:22 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 14:02 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:01 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:27 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:51 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:05 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 12:39 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:02 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:16 +0100
                [OT] Ping: Piet (was: 8MB sms pic) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:10 +0000
                Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-16 09:46 +0100
                Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 11:50 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:19 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:20 +0100
              Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:21 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:44 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:21 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:17 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:32 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 20:47 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:27 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-11 23:40 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 19:02 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 19:07 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:28 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:21 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:25 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:29 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:39 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:11 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:40 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:50 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:13 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 10:26 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:08 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 11:43 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 12:06 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:28 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 10:17 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:46 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:37 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:40 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 16:06 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:14 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:16 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:41 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:48 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:36 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:32 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:49 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:30 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:12 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:21 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:51 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:22 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:54 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:06 -0400
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 20:26 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:40 -0400
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 21:23 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:32 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 22:21 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:50 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:02 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:29 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:27 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:34 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:32 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:08 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:43 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:54 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:08 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 18:31 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 19:16 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:24 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:31 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 17:28 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 18:47 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:00 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:53 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 15:08 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:03 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:10 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:40 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:27 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 14:51 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:11 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:47 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:43 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 01:10 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:10 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 11:24 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 10:32 -0700
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:48 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 18:05 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:10 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 15:03 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:23 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 11:40 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:46 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-13 06:35 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:17 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:37 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:12 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:57 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:59 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:38 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:08 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:12 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:06 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:04 +0000
                Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 10:54 +0100
                Re: 8MB sms pic M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-13 06:59 -0600
                Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
        Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:11 +0100
          Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:27 +0100
            Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:37 +0100
  Re: 8MB sms pic KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:19 -0700
  Re: 8MB sms pic musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2018-11-09 11:48 +0000
  Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-17 10:30 -0500

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