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Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere.

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere.
Date 2018-10-31 19:00 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <prd1k0.pj8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <prafq6.ahg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg 
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:
> >"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:
> >> In message <pra6bf$3b5$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
> []
> >> At what annual cost (I'm talking about the hardware), though? And what
> >> do I do with the superseded 'phones (which still do what they did when I
> >> bought them)?
> >
> >  If you don't want/need the latest-and-greatest - especially no
> >expensive cameras, etc. -, the annual cost can be quite reasonable.
> >
> >  For me, cost over the last five years, for two phones, excluding the
> >cost of two 32GB MicroSD cards, was 160 Euro. So with the cards and some
> >paid apps thrown in, that would be some 50 Euro per year.
> 
> While still feeling high, that's a lot better than what some of the 
> other posters in this thread have been quoting as acceptable!

  Note that that cost was for *two* phones, both of which are still
working/used, so the cost per year will still drop.

> >  That low cost is why I tried Android - instead of iDevices - in the
> >first place and why I'm sticking to Android, despite its quirks.
> >
> >  No way an iDevice could come even remotely close to that low cost.
> 
> Indeed not. I've seen iDevices - my blind friends have them; they're 
> nice and work well (though I think either OS it's largely a matter of 
> familiarity), but the cost is indeed phenomenal. I don't know the 
> underlying cost of the hardware, but for PCs, I know Apple gear is about 
> 3-4 times the cost of the equivalent on Windows, so I assume the 'phones 
> are similar (though look to be even more).

  Oops! I'm afraid you've just triggered another of nospam's rants.

> >  What to do with the superseded phones? Because that's becoming a
> >common problem (also I dislike throwing stuff away), you'll see
> >information/recommendations on that very subject, in the mainstream
> >media.
> >
> >  Some examples are:
> >
> >- Portable WiFi hotspot
> 
> That's out unless you have a suitable tariff. (I have a 3-2-1 SIM, on 
> which I put ten pounds when I bought it several years ago; last time I 
> checked, it had about 7 pounds left on it ...) A lot of the PAYG tariffs 
> specifically exclude tethering, though I can't see why (as you'd be 
> paying for what you use - and how can they even tell anyway?): is that 
> just a UK thing, or is it common in other countries too?

  I use the WiFi hotspot functionality mainly when traveling. On
pre-paid, the cost is most of the time 1ct/MB or less, which - for me -
is quite acceptable as I normally use only 1-2GB/month at most.

> >- 'GPS' (navigation device)
> >- Music player
> >- eReader (for eBooks)
> >- Podcasts
> >- RSS reader
> 
> All sound good ideas, thanks. But unless you're in the habit of using 
> multiple devices at once, why wouldn't you just use your latest 'phone 
> for all of those?

  It's mainly/also for use by *other* people than 'you' (who has a
new(er) smartphone).

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No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 16:37 +0000
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:57 -0700
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:03 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-28 11:44 -0700
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-10-30 07:41 -0400
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 17:46 +0000
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:09 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:33 +0000
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:44 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-28 19:12 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 20:48 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-29 22:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 01:02 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 12:22 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:02 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:46 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 19:00 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 19:07 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:19 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:29 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:39 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:43 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:40 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:25 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 19:45 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-30 14:17 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:36 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 08:42 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 16:55 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 13:40 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 11:11 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:13 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-31 15:26 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:31 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:36 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:45 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:52 +0000
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                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 09:09 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-31 19:00 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 15:11 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:18 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2018-10-31 13:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 14:49 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 08:42 -0700
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                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-06 10:33 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 15:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-31 18:55 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 15:11 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 17:58 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 22:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 18:25 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:26 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:19 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-31 14:11 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:32 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 15:48 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 20:37 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 21:16 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 21:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 22:26 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-29 08:19 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-29 15:43 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 12:04 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:44 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 07:18 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Mark Blain <mblain2@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-28 19:59 +0000
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 20:39 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Mark Blain <mblain2@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-29 14:04 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:45 +0000
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2018-10-29 13:28 +0000
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:50 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 07:25 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 17:21 +0000
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:44 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 19:16 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:35 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 23:54 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:51 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:10 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:28 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 15:38 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 19:23 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 20:04 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 22:39 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-04 14:31 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-04 20:13 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 14:31 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:12 -0800
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 16:45 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 01:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 20:02 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:05 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 08:10 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:07 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 01:53 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-04 21:06 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:14 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:04 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:14 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:29 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 16:54 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:14 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:23 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 18:52 +0000

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