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Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere.

From "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere.
Date 2018-10-31 10:31 +0000
Organization 255 software
Message-ID <G+CBIfklRY2bFwFI@255soft.uk> (permalink)
References (9 earlier) <pr9if3$fmj$1@dont-email.me> <Bc4gg9TOuH2bFwWN@255soft.uk> <pra6bf$3b5$1@dont-email.me> <vSdLzweaTK2bFwii@255soft.uk> <prafq6.ahg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

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In message <prafq6.ahg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg 
<this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <pra6bf$3b5$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
[]
>> At what annual cost (I'm talking about the hardware), though? And what
>> do I do with the superseded 'phones (which still do what they did when I
>> bought them)?
>
>  If you don't want/need the latest-and-greatest - especially no
>expensive cameras, etc. -, the annual cost can be quite reasonable.
>
>  For me, cost over the last five years, for two phones, excluding the
>cost of two 32GB MicroSD cards, was 160 Euro. So with the cards and some
>paid apps thrown in, that would be some 50 Euro per year.

While still feeling high, that's a lot better than what some of the 
other posters in this thread have been quoting as acceptable!
>
>  That low cost is why I tried Android - instead of iDevices - in the
>first place and why I'm sticking to Android, despite its quirks.
>
>  No way an iDevice could come even remotely close to that low cost.

Indeed not. I've seen iDevices - my blind friends have them; they're 
nice and work well (though I think either OS it's largely a matter of 
familiarity), but the cost is indeed phenomenal. I don't know the 
underlying cost of the hardware, but for PCs, I know Apple gear is about 
3-4 times the cost of the equivalent on Windows, so I assume the 'phones 
are similar (though look to be even more).
>
>  What to do with the superseded phones? Because that's becoming a
>common problem (also I dislike throwing stuff away), you'll see
>information/recommendations on that very subject, in the mainstream
>media.
>
>  Some examples are:
>
>- Portable WiFi hotspot

That's out unless you have a suitable tariff. (I have a 3-2-1 SIM, on 
which I put ten pounds when I bought it several years ago; last time I 
checked, it had about 7 pounds left on it ...) A lot of the PAYG tariffs 
specifically exclude tethering, though I can't see why (as you'd be 
paying for what you use - and how can they even tell anyway?): is that 
just a UK thing, or is it common in other countries too?

>- 'GPS' (navigation device)
>- Music player
>- eReader (for eBooks)
>- Podcasts
>- RSS reader

All sound good ideas, thanks. But unless you're in the habit of using 
multiple devices at once, why wouldn't you just use your latest 'phone 
for all of those?
[]
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Who can refute a sneer? - Archdeacon Paley, in his book Moral Philosophy

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No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 16:37 +0000
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:57 -0700
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:03 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-28 11:44 -0700
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-10-30 07:41 -0400
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 17:46 +0000
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:09 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:33 +0000
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 18:44 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-28 19:12 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 20:48 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-29 22:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 01:02 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 12:22 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:02 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:46 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 19:00 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 19:07 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:19 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:29 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:39 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:43 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:40 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:25 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 19:45 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-30 14:17 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:36 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 08:42 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 16:55 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 13:40 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 11:11 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:13 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-31 15:26 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:31 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:36 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:45 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 10:52 +0000
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                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 09:09 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-31 19:00 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 15:11 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:18 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2018-10-31 13:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 14:49 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-31 08:42 -0700
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                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-31 15:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-31 18:55 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 15:11 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 17:58 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 22:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 18:25 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:26 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:19 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-31 14:11 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:32 +0000
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          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 20:37 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 21:16 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-28 21:27 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-28 22:26 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-29 08:19 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-29 15:43 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 12:04 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:44 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 07:18 +0000
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            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:45 +0000
  Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2018-10-29 13:28 +0000
    Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-29 21:50 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-30 07:25 +0000
      Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 17:21 +0000
        Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-30 18:44 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-30 19:16 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:35 +0000
          Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 23:54 +0000
            Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 11:51 +0000
              Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-10-31 21:37 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:10 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:21 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 09:28 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 15:38 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 19:23 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 20:04 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 22:39 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-04 14:31 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-04 20:13 +0000
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                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 01:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 20:02 -0700
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:05 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 08:10 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:07 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 01:53 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-04 21:06 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:14 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:57 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:04 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:14 -0400
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:29 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 16:54 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:11 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:14 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:23 +0000
                Re: No keyboard. At all. Anywhere. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 18:52 +0000

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