Re: 'Space' is never empty

From	benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: 'Space' is never empty
Date	2018-10-12 12:00 -0400
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On 10/12/2018 9:27 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 7:59:55 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2018 8:29 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 6:14 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> benj
>>>>>>>>>> Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
>>>>>>>>>> version of bible thumping. What's yours? 
>>>>>>>>>> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
>>>>>>>>> Somethings gonna stick, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks
>>>>>>>> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people
>>>>>>>> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your
>>>>>>>> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dont find mathematics indecipherable. Maybe you and John do. Maybe you
>>>>>>> think this is somehow unfair, like John does. John wants no science that a
>>>>>>> third grader cant follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never heard you explain any of your so-called "science" either in
>>>>>> words OR math. Einstein said one should be able to explain science to
>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> To a barmaid. Thats what he said. Then he wrote a book on relativity to
>>>>> barmaids. It had a tiny bit of math in it. Lets ask John whether hes read
>>>>> or made sense of something written for barmaids. This should tell us
>>>>> something about John vs barmaids.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't explain your science to anyone who speaks both science
>>>>>> AND math.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a discussion forum. This is not an explanation forum. Discussion is
>>>>> between people who know something about the subject. It isnt for someone
>>>>> who knows something about the subject to explain it to someone who doesnt.
>>>>> Now, you say you know something about physics and you speak math.
>>>>> Wonderful. What would you like to discuss?
>>>>
>>>> So you think this is a literature and language discussion? Why can you
>>>> never discuss the IDEAS of science. You obviously have no ideas about
>>>> anything but words and lawyerly persuasion. That's not science.
>>>
>>> Alright, what IDEA do you want to discuss?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> YOU just then explain that by saying that THEY are uneducated
>>>>>> and stupid. What is the flaw in your thinking? John at least understands
>>>>>> the IDEA behind his theories. yeah, sometimes he's wrong, but at least
>>>>>> he knows what the idea he had was. You on the other hand have NO ideas.
>>>>>> You can't explain anything. For you it's all in details and jargon
>>>>>> you've memorized. You just repeat what others have said without
>>>>>> understanding a word of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. I think its fine to refer to what others have done. In case you
>>>>> notice, this is the pattern in science. Now, what would you like to
>>>>> discuss?
>>>>
>>>> John puts forth science ideas for discussion. Discussion means a
>>>> discussion of the evidence for or against the idea.
>>>
>>> Evidence for or against an idea is usually quantitative, not just
>>> qualitative. This would involve calculations. How would you propose to
>>> discuss quantitative tests of ideas without using math?
>>>
>>> So which idea of Johns would you like to discuss? How about discussing
>>> what a fractal is, since he loves that word.
>>>
>>>> To you it's all
>>>> about a a big political debate over the meaning of jargon, what dogma
>>>> your textbooks promote and name-calling in place of actual science. You
>>>> are just a fool and a loser.
>>>>
>>>>>> You are just like a lawyer in a courtroom
>>>>>> where guilt or innocence does not matter, it's all about one's skill in
>>>>>> using words to create arguments.
>>>>
>>>> I was right about you the above and I say it again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>> =========================that crock has no ideas !
>> the only thing he has in mind is
>> how to steal innovations
>> andpublishit in his
>> book publishing business
>> =Y.P
>> ========================
>>
> 
> Wrong guy. I don’t have a book publishing business.
> 
He keeps saying this Porat, but it's a lie. Today is a new era where an 
accusation is all we need as proof of guilt. Odd is guilty!

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'Space' is never empty Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 19:08 -0700
  Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-05 21:54 -0500
    Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 22:21 -0700
  Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 23:27 -0700
  Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:54 +0000
    Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 17:17 -0400
      Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-06 16:46 -0500
        Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 22:10 -0400
    Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 21:31 -0700
      Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:25 +0000
        Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 05:31 -0700
          Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 14:30 +0000
        Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 09:07 -0700
          Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:36 +0000
            Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 21:31 -0700
              Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 06:02 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 11:54 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 10:24 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 12:33 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 19:44 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:00 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 18:58 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 14:53 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 20:59 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-09 21:23 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 05:52 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:44 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 06:59 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:59 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:12 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 18:01 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 22:14 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:41 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 00:07 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:50 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 23:33 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:01 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 17:57 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:28 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 22:52 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 09:58 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:57 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 22:34 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:45 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:13 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 17:57 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:52 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 22:56 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 05:55 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 13:15 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 06:51 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 14:13 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:07 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:52 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:20 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 22:11 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 21:49 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 13:35 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 21:59 -0700
                You can't _ measure motion if you never stop measuring. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-13 22:51 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 10:17 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:20 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 09:50 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:24 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:47 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:43 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 00:03 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:29 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:49 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 16:59 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 18:23 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 13:27 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 07:39 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:00 -0400
                Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-13 22:38 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 23:39 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:45 +0000
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 16:12 +0000
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 09:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 20:20 +0000
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 13:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 13:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 21:09 +0000
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 18:18 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 05:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:24 +0000
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 21:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Rogue Cormac <kremvax2004@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-14 10:58 -0600
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 19:06 +0200
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-14 14:49 -0700
                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 23:06 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 10:34 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 09:33 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:48 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 13:35 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:29 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 11:10 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-17 14:33 -0500
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 18:58 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 23:54 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 13:22 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:42 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:59 +0000
              Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 13:21 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 11:55 -0400
                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:47 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-08 11:51 -0500
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:58 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 17:13 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:04 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 17:39 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Ivan Smith <invalid@example.com> - 2018-10-11 08:28 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 18:20 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-11 19:43 -0500
      Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 10:20 -0700
        Re: 'Space' is never empty yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:58 -0700
          Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:13 -0700
            Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:51 -0400
  'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 07:55 -0700
  Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 13:32 -0700

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