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Re: Anti-virus?

From Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Anti-virus?
Date 2018-10-03 19:02 +0100
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On 03/10/2018 18:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
>    Yes, but in the context of these paranoid and scaremongering 'news'
> articles, the *point* is, *does* Android - the OS and only the OS -
> actually track 'you' or not!?

As far as that goes, I don't know, but ...

>    Until now, we've only seen unspecific innuendo, but no actual *proof*
> that *Android* *does* actually track 'you'.

... although it's not Android as such, anyone connecting to the internet 
can often be tracked, often regardless of their platform or browser 
settings.  As it happens, recently there has been in similar debate in a 
subthread of this in alt.windows7.general:

"CCleaner Is Silently Updating Users Who Turned Off Automatic Updates"
http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?page=2&t=1105856

You may care to note particularly my own contributions ...

http://www.pcbanter.net/showpost.php?p=3767984&postcount=21
http://www.pcbanter.net/showpost.php?p=3768042&postcount=26

... in which I give several examples of people being tracked by 
differing technologies, including testing the uniqueness (read 
trackability) of this PC's browser  -  its fingerprint is unique, and 
therefore I am completely trackable.

>    N.B. I put 'you' in scare quotes, because tracking does not track a
> person, but a device and the activity on and of that device. And yes,
> there are people who claim that the information of said tracking, can
> and does really identify a specific person by name, (living) address,
> etc., etc., but also they fail to provide proof of said identification.
> 
>    N.B.2. *If* said personal information is used without the person's
> specific consent or/and without telling what the information is used for
> or/and without telling the person which information is kept about hir
> or/and without giving the person the opportunity to redact/remove that
> information or/and ..., in the EU the GDPR can and will be enforced and
> the culprits will be hit with a ton of bricks (read: multi-billion
> dollar fines). That has been done in the past with much success 

I don't think it has for GDPR as such ...

"Vote Leave data firm hit with first ever GDPR notice"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45589004

... though admittedly that story is self-contradictory, in that the 
headline says "first ever", but the text says "UK's first"

> and is
> the only way to get the likes of Google to get their act together. (As
> we speak, Facebook could face :-) a $1.6 billion fine in the EU, because
> of the recent security hole that exposed some 50 million accounts.)

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Anti-virus? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 13:54 -0400
  Re:Anti-virus? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-01 20:05 +0200
    Re: Anti-virus? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:15 -0400
      Re: Anti-virus? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-10-01 19:55 +0100
    Re: Anti-virus? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-01 22:11 +0200
      Re: Anti-virus? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-02 02:14 +0200
        Re: Anti-virus? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-02 06:18 +0200
      Re: Anti-virus? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-02 02:34 +0200
  Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-01 20:49 +0200
    Re: Anti-virus? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 16:03 -0400
      Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-02 02:52 +0000
      Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-02 10:29 +0200
        Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 13:30 +0200
          Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 15:09 +0200
            Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 15:31 +0200
              Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 16:33 +0200
    Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-02 02:50 +0000
      Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-02 10:55 +0200
        Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-02 12:32 +0000
          Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-02 09:45 -0700
            Re: Anti-virus? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-02 17:54 +0000
              Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-02 13:15 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 02:38 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-03 10:49 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 12:11 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-03 08:42 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 16:16 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-03 17:32 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2018-10-03 19:02 +0100
                Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 20:13 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-03 20:09 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 23:23 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-04 13:06 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-04 15:02 +0000
                Google does *not* track *you*! (was: Anti-virus?) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-04 15:44 +0000
                Re: Google does *not* track *you*! 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-04 09:10 -0700
                Re: Google does *not* track *you*! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 22:03 +0200
                Re: Google does *not* track *you*! 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-07 14:23 -0700
                Re: Google does *not* track *you*! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-04 17:07 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-04 09:10 -0700
              Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 02:36 +0000
            Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 02:34 +0000
              Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-02 20:33 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder  <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 04:30 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-02 22:13 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 12:52 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 15:09 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 15:40 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-03 08:42 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 16:16 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-03 15:52 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 23:31 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-10-03 21:21 -0700
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-04 13:07 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-04 09:10 -0700
              Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 13:37 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-03 08:44 -0400
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 12:52 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 15:06 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 15:40 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:41 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-08 15:00 +0000
          Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-02 20:42 +0200
            Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 13:44 +0200
              Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 12:52 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 15:14 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 15:31 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 17:47 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 16:16 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 18:20 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 17:18 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 15:39 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-03 17:49 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 16:16 +0000
              Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-03 15:28 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 15:39 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:48 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus? Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-10-07 21:40 +0200
      Re: Anti-virus? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 19:33 -0400
        Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-03 02:40 +0000
          Re: Anti-virus? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 13:55 -0400
            Re: Anti-virus? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-03 14:08 -0400
              Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-04 13:07 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-04 10:03 -0400
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-06 02:56 +0000
                Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:50 +0200
                Re: Anti-virus?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-08 15:00 +0000
            Re: Anti-virus? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:54 +0200
  Re: Anti-virus? Arlen   H  Holder <arlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-02 02:47 +0000
  Re: Anti-virus? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-10-04 13:14 +0100

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