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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Anti-virus? |
| Date | 2018-10-03 15:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g1julsFm4mjU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <dq6a8f-nvf.ln1@hergen.dyndns.org> <potui9$t02$1@dont-email.me> <nsmb8f-bfa.ln1@hergen.dyndns.org> <g1jniaFknuvU1@mid.individual.net> <ukre8f-m02.ln1@hergen.dyndns.org> |
On 03/10/2018 15.09, Hergen Lehmann wrote:
> Am 03.10.2018 um 13:30 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>
>>>> How does an Android device get infected?
>>>
>>> In most cases by installing that new, popular game which contains some
>>> kind of malware and hasn't been pulled from the store yet. Google isn't
>>> exactly fast in doing this and is rather indifferent about spyware.
>>
>> Then they would be Trojans, not virii.
>
> Not sure about that. Malware distributed through the store does rely
> heavily on word-of-mouth propaganda to spread quickly before being
> pulled. Quite likely some will try to spread actively, either by forging
> recommendations in the store, or by sending messages to contacts found
> in the contact list.
>
> Anyway, most AV software claims to protect against all kind of malware,
> not only virii, so it's rather pointless to try some demarcation here.
Well, I, as others, wonder about how actual virus can propagate on
Android devices.
On the other hand, I doubt how much an Antivirus can do against
"trojans", ie, software distributed through official sources that do bad
things. Can they be really faster than google, with the huge amount of
apps out there?
>
>>> Infected media files and web sites also are a common vector of attack.
>>
>> I don't think I have seen any :-?
>
> Well, i'm not visiting media piracy sites too much either. ;-)
> But there has been a lot of fuzz about this attack vector, especially
> when stagefright was discovered.
Ah... those media files.
I would not use Android for those - Nor Windows. :-p
>
>>> Some devices (especially no-name china brands) do come with malware
>>> already pre-installed at the factory.
>>
>> Not virii.
>
> Not sure about that. As this is mainly a problem with malware found on
> chinese phones and targeted at the chinese market, it is almost
> impossible to find any details on purpose and distribution channels.
> But it would be strange, if not at least some of these will try to
> actively spread, too.
>
>>> In business environments, email attachments also pose a major risk,
>>> especially if combined with social engineering.
>>
>> Not virii
>
> Most of these *will* be virii.
How can they spread to another phone? Sending another email? Because
that looks rather like a social engineering trojan. :-p
> After the attacker has successfully penetrated the security of a company
> or governmental institution at some point (most likely the smartphone or
> desktop PC of some simple-minded non-technical employee), his success
> heavily depends on spreading out to more important computers in the
> local area network as fast as possible.
Yes, computers, yes. But I have not seen phones using samba or opening
ports :-?
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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