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Re: Black holes don't exist in reality

From	"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Black holes don't exist in reality
Date	2018-09-08 13:40 -0700
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On 9/8/2018 12:29 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> mitchrae3323@gmail.com full-quoted cluelessly:
> 
>> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 10:56:23 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Ed Lake wrote:
>>>> Singularities are, of course, nonsense.
>>> Of course not.  Singularities occur all the time.
>>
>> And what are they?
> 
> Where any function is not well-defined or not well-behaved in some way.  STFW.

One can get spirals that go into an infinite funnel, and the math is 
perfectly sound.


> 
>>> You are *still* merely arguing from your own ignorance.
>>>> They are just a way of saying there is some missing information
>>>> preventing accurate calculations.
>>> Shut up and calculate!
>>
>> The real world Calculus can't go exact. You would need infinite calculations Tommy...
>> What do you say to that?
> 
>    “That is not only not right; it is not even wrong!”
> 
>      –Wolfgang Pauli (translated)
> 
>>> The Schwarzschild metric (as a special case for the metric of a black hole
>>> that has no electric charge and no angular momentum) is in Schwarzschild
>>> coordinates
>>>
>>>    ds² = c²dτ² = (1 − rₛ∕r) c²dt² − 1∕(1 − rₛ∕r) dr² − r² (dθ² + sin²θ dφ²).
>>>
>>> What is the value of the right-hand side for r = 0?
>>> […]
>>
>> Einstein and Hawking had problems with an infinite space curve.
> 
> They had not.
> 
> You have the problem that you just cannot post properly.
> And that is only one of your many problem (as evident from your postings).
> 
> Also, you have not answered the question.
>

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Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 17:37 -0700
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-05 05:14 +0200
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 10:38 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 00:52 +0200
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 20:39 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 07:46 +0200
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 12:33 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 22:49 +0200
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:18 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 15:02 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 15:37 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-07 04:37 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 13:07 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 14:56 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 12:05 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-08 04:12 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 10:21 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 15:19 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:34 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 00:11 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 22:55 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 00:54 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-12 16:20 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 17:17 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 02:40 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-14 20:07 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-15 09:30 +0200
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-10 19:56 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 11:09 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 05:50 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 21:09 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 21:12 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-11 02:33 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 18:00 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-11 15:21 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:03 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-11 21:34 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 12:57 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 20:50 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 14:00 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-11 23:27 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-06 19:39 +0200
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 20:08 +0200
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 13:21 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 20:24 +0000
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:19 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-07 04:30 +0200
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-08 09:55 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 19:56 +0200
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 12:10 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 21:29 +0200
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 12:50 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 12:56 +0200
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-09 14:05 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-11 02:28 +0200
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:40 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 00:14 +0200
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 13:15 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 23:29 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 07:40 -0700
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 09:50 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 11:09 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 12:19 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 18:52 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 09:04 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 16:26 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:45 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-13 17:07 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-12 22:58 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 21:18 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 17:16 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:56 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:54 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-14 05:13 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 06:34 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-14 19:05 +0200
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:37 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-08 14:59 -0500
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 15:54 +0200
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-15 09:28 +0200
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-16 09:11 -0500
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-16 18:21 +0200
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 17:58 +0000
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 12:50 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-10 21:35 +0000
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 14:54 -0700
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 16:35 +0000
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 11:13 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 12:58 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-12 13:27 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 23:15 -0700
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 18:02 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 18:44 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 04:39 +0200
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 19:48 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 20:10 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 10:14 +0200
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 15:42 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 16:57 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 17:06 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 20:21 -0700
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 20:58 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 21:20 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 21:20 -0700
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 14:20 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-19 23:54 +0200
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:20 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-21 23:50 +0200
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:10 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:34 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 17:37 -0700
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 19:36 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 15:25 +0000
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:57 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-22 00:24 +0200
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-21 22:42 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-21 23:08 +0000
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:15 -0700
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-20 15:02 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-20 15:11 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-20 15:16 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:08 -0700
  Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-22 16:18 -0700
    Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-22 20:40 -0700
      Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:46 -0700
        Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-22 23:36 -0700
          Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-23 15:42 -0700
            Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-23 15:50 -0700
              Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 17:06 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 18:43 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 18:53 -0700
                Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 19:09 -0700

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