Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > sci.physics.relativity > #470640
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Black holes don't exist in reality |
| Date | 2018-09-06 19:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <fvd72oF5ivoU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <bbf85139-ddde-4805-95c8-cbdc4c1c1e14@googlegroups.com> <fv9010F9ehpU1@mid.individual.net> <f8d24ee6-9c36-e004-2d05-225016545231@PointedEars.de> |
Am 06.09.2018 um 00:52 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 05.09.2018 um 02:37 schrieb mitchrae3323@gmail.com:
>>> We are seeing what highest gravity does but that is
>>> short of a black hole. Supermassive Neutronium that
>>> won't collapse into a singularity. It is that form that
>>> we are seeing doing the same thing as would a black hole.
>>
>> If you apply a Lorentz transform to a coordinate system and turn the
>> axis of time from - say - vertical to - say - a little to the right, the
>> axis' x,y and z of the coordinate system are kind or 'squeezed' together.
>>
>> Since the three axis x, y and z of space represent space (OUR!!! space),
>> the turning of the axis of time would create a situation, which is
>> called 'black hole'.
>
> Utter nonsense, not even wrong. Why do you keep writing about things
> that you have no clue about as if you had one? What’s the point?
Possibly you do actually believe in what you write and really really
believe, that it is actually true.
I do the same, but based on other assumptions. I had a certain idea
about how to connect GR (general relativity) and QM on the basis of a
scheme, which I have invented myself.
(see here:
https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 )
So - in a way - I have invented kind of 'private physics', about what I
think, it is far better than yours.
That you do not agree is nothing for me to worry about. What is annoying
is this typical kind of fanatism, which does not allow to criticize some
fundamental theorems like e.g. SRT.
Now you base your judgment about my statements ('not even wrong') on
certain doctrines, which are apparently part of the eduction at certain
institutions.
But 'teachers say, professor says, Einstein says' is not a scientific
proof. It is not even close to a proof. It is just repetition of what
you have been told.
> Black holes are a feature in *curved* spacetime only.
>
Well, if 'curved spacetime' is compatible with general relativity, than
I have nothing to complain.
TH
Back to sci.physics.relativity | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 17:37 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-05 05:14 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 10:38 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 00:52 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 20:39 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 07:46 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 12:33 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 22:49 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:18 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 15:02 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 15:37 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-07 04:37 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 13:07 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 14:56 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 12:05 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-08 04:12 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 10:21 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 15:19 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:34 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 00:11 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 22:55 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 00:54 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-12 16:20 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 17:17 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 02:40 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-14 20:07 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-15 09:30 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-10 19:56 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 11:09 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 05:50 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 21:09 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 21:12 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-11 02:33 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 18:00 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-11 15:21 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:03 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-11 21:34 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 12:57 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 20:50 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 14:00 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-11 23:27 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-09-06 19:39 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-06 20:08 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 13:21 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-06 20:24 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:19 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-07 04:30 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-08 09:55 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 19:56 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 12:10 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 21:29 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 12:50 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 12:56 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-09 14:05 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-11 02:28 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:40 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 00:14 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 13:15 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 23:29 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 07:40 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 09:50 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 11:09 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 12:19 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 18:52 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 09:04 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 16:26 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:45 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-13 17:07 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-12 22:58 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 21:18 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 17:16 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:56 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:54 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-14 05:13 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 06:34 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-14 19:05 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-08 13:37 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-08 14:59 -0500
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 15:54 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-15 09:28 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-16 09:11 -0500
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-16 18:21 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 17:58 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 12:50 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-10 21:35 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 14:54 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 16:35 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 11:13 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 12:58 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-12 13:27 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 23:15 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 18:02 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 18:44 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 04:39 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 19:48 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 20:10 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 10:14 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 15:42 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 16:57 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 17:06 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 20:21 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 20:58 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 21:20 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-13 21:20 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 14:20 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-19 23:54 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:20 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-21 23:50 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:10 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:34 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 17:37 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 19:36 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 15:25 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:57 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-22 00:24 +0200
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-21 22:42 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-21 23:08 +0000
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:15 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-20 15:02 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-20 15:11 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-20 15:16 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:08 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-22 16:18 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-22 20:40 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:46 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-22 23:36 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-23 15:42 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-23 15:50 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 17:06 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 18:43 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 18:53 -0700
Re: Black holes don't exist in reality mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 19:09 -0700
csiph-web