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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

From sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
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On 8/18/2018 3:22 PM, abcdef wrote:

<snip>

> My wired headphones also automatically pair with all my Android devices
> and... the Wife's iPad. Just have to plug them in. But some dummy
> engineer left the pairing jack off her iPhone...

The actual reasons for the removal of the headphone jack made perfect sense:
1. Reduce manufacturing cost of the phone.
2. Make waterproofing easier.
3. Encourage sales of Airpods.
4. The headphone jack generates no licensing fees, the Lightning jack does.
5. Follows their philosophy of minimizing I/O ports, which is also seen 
on their computers.

OTOH, the Lightning to 3.5mm adapter that they include, for now, is not 
cheap. There's a DAC, and ADC, and an amplifier inside. Along with a 
3.5mm jack, Lightning plug, and cable, that must cost at least 75ยข to 
manufacture (aftermarket ones are about $1.40 retail), so all the cost 
removed from the phone moved into a separate device.

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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
  Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 10:15 -0700
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:30 -0400
      Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 11:01 -0700
        Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 14:42 -0400
          Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 13:26 -0700
            Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 17:31 -0400
              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 10:12 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 11:58 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 13:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 22:00 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 00:16 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
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            Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
            Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 06:26 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:42 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:37 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 16:04 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 18:45 +0000
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