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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

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Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date	2018-08-18 13:41 -0400
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In article <pl9jsh$jvc$1@dont-email.me>, abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
wrote:

> 
> >> some NEW Apple devices still come with a headphone jack such as my 
> >> wife's iPad Pro purchased in January.
> 
> > ipads (and macs) have a different use case than phones
> 
> What (audio) difference? Watching a movie on the iPad, listening to
> music on the phone, it's all basically audio. Your Bluetooth arguments
> don't apply to tablets also?

i said different use case, not different audio.

in general, macs and often tablets are connected to a home theater
system or professional audio equipment (i.e., *not* headphones), if
they're connected to anything (most aren't).

a phone is often used with headphones for listening to music or
watching a video while out and about. while at home, speakers would
probably be used.

and yes, bluetooth works with tablets as well as macs. it's not just
phones.

one exceptionally cool thing about apple's airpods is you only need to
pair them with *one* device (usually the phone) and then they're
automatically paired with every other device you own, whether it's a
iphone, ipad or mac. what's even cooler is they play audio from
whatever device you're currently using (or you can switch it manually).

in other words the hassles of manually pairing, particularly pairing
and dealing with multiple devices, is a thing of the past.

also, since they are standard bluetooth, they work with android and
even older flip phones.

> > the analog headphone jack was removed on the iphone because space is
> >  *extremely* limited in a phone and that space could be better used 
> > for other purposes.
> 
> A nice theory but I doubt you have a clue as to what was added to the
> missing headphone jack space. I think your wired headphone = old
> technology argument held more water.

it's not a theory. apple explained what the extra room was for, which
is additional battery and the dual-lens camera with portrait
mode/lighting.

although the camera was at the top of the phone, the additional lens
meant other components had to move internally to accommodate
everything, particularly on the 7 (non-plus) model. 

on the iphone x, the display goes to the edge, which means there is no
room underneath for an analog headphone jack.

space is at an extreme premium. the original iphone used mini sims,
later micro sims and now nano sims, all due to needing the space for
more important things.

apple wants to move to e-sims to recover the space taken up by the nano
sim, however, the carriers are fighting that because it would mean the
user could easily switch to another carrier at any time with a couple
of taps, something the carriers do *not* want. 

the apple watch does have an e-sim because there is no alternative.
it's too small for a nano sim. 

> > not including it also makes it easier to seal the phone from
> > moisture and dirt incursion.
> 
> A past phone of mine (HTC) was WATERPROOF to 10'. It had a headphone jack.

i said easier, not impossible.  it's an additional hole to seal, and a
difficult one at that.

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