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Re: We don't know what we don't know

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On 8/6/2018 8:11 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <alal65536@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My quest for truth is to understand myself and the world better.
>> Scientists search for simple laws that describe the natural world.  With
>> classical physics, scientist felt they had discovered almost everything
>> and the process was ending.  Then came relativity and quantum mechanics.
>> The end is but the beginning.
>>
>> The famous quote about unknown unknowns is from Donald Rumsfeld, a US
>> Congressman.  But does it also apply to physics?
>>
>> Mathematics hates contradictions.  And physics can be said to be
>> empirical with theory of applied mathematics.  But even in physics there
>> is contradiction.
> 
> I disagree.

Idiot. Consistency is the very definition of mathematics. Inconsistency 
is never permitted. Your ignorance is palpable.

>> Wave particle duality is considered by some to be a contradiction.
> 
> Not among the knowledgeable.

Odd means, not among the true believers.

>> According to arxiv.org, in "Types of paradoxes in physics", 'axioms of a
>> formal system allow for the possibility of contradiction'.  And physics
>> is somewhat a formal system.
>>
>> We will never discover everything, I suspect.  But we can continue to
>> have a better understanding of ourselves and the world.  Understanding
>> ourselves is just as important as understanding the rest of the world.
>> Biology is just as important as physics.  But what are the limits to our understanding?

There are limits to human understanding. The level of complexity (which 
is to say database size) is one such limit. To learn more read my book 
(the one on myth and religion) at www.hypersphere.us. (which I might 
mention that Odd has refused to read because he prefers his happy 
ignorant state to enlightenment)

>> I only read that one paper on arxiv.org, but I need to understand more
>> about how much a thing (human, in this case) can understand itself, and
>> how biased our physics is because it was discovered/created by humans.
> 
> The purpose of physics is to understand nature, not so much us. That’s a
> different set of fields.

HUmans are "fields"? You just babble incoherently! You pretend that 
physics does not apply to humans? Humans are not part of the universe?
Are you really this nuts?

>>
>> Let me close this discussion with some quotes.
>>
>> "The more I know, the less I know"
>>
>> Abhinav Lal
>> Writer & Investor
>>
>> "I am a contradiction,
>> There is no logical solution"
>>
> 
> 
> 

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We don't know what we don't know alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 04:44 -0700
  Re: We don't know what we don't know Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 12:11 +0000
    Re: We don't know what we don't know alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 05:55 -0700
    Re: We don't know what we don't know alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 07:34 -0700
      Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 10:21 -0500
        Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:21 -0400
      Re: We don't know what we don't know Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 15:21 +0000
        Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:05 -0400
      The uncaused cause. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 17:11 -0700
    Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:03 -0400
    Re: We don't know what we don't know john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 07:17 -0700
      Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 11:22 -0400
  Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 08:59 -0500
    Re: We don't know what we don't know alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 07:42 -0700
      Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 10:20 -0500
      Re: We don't know what we don't know Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 15:26 +0000
        Re: We don't know what we don't know alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 09:29 -0700
          Re: We don't know what we don't know Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 16:43 +0000
            Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:23 -0400
          Re: We don't know what we don't know "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-06 14:45 -0700
            Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 16:57 -0500
              Re: We don't know what we don't know "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-08 23:39 -0700
          Re: We don't know what we don't know Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:10 -0700
        Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:08 -0400
        Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 15:07 -0500
          Re: We don't know what we don't know benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:27 -0400
            Re: We don't know what we don't know Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 16:35 -0500
    Re: We don't know what we don't know poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-13 15:59 -0700
  Re: We don't know what we don't know Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 16:59 -0700
  We're ten times more retarded than we can imagine. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 16:53 -0700
    Re: We're ten times more retarded than we can imagine. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-12 22:59 -0500
      Re: We're ten times more retarded than we can imagine. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 11:42 -0400
    Re: We're ten times more retarded than we can imagine. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-13 13:42 -0700

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