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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo |
| Date | 2018-06-22 15:51 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <pgjugm$cf7$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <pAqLpy.1LBD@kithrup.com> <pgjg6v$jv6$1@dont-email.me> <pAqoo8.1rD3@kithrup.com> <60a81275-5849-4b16-968b-c97625184da1@googlegroups.com> <pgjobc$8sh$1@dont-email.me> |
On 6/22/2018 2:05 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 6/22/2018 3:36 PM, Kevrob wrote: >> On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 3:45:05 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>> In article <pgjg6v$jv6$1@dont-email.me>, >>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 6/22/2018 1:22 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>> In article <XnsA9096C00BD242taustingmail@69.16.179.43>, >>>>> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> .....But he got too popular too quickly, and it ceased >>>>>> to be possible to edit him. >>>>> >>>>> Oh dear, that almost always spells trouble. That was (one of >>>>> the) problem with late Heinlein. He could write coarse graffiti >>>>> on the bathroom wall and somebody would publish it because his >>>>> *name* would sell it. >>>> >>>> Heinlein did do that. >>> >>> Depending on your interpretation of what I just typed, yeah. >>> >>> On graffiti on the bathroom wall: I took Alan Dundes's folklore >>> class once, and he spent a reasonable but not unreasonable amount >>> of time on bathroom-wall graffiti. How they were folklore within >>> the meaning of the definition, showing multiple record and >>> variation. That they were generally obscene and/or insulting was >>> just a characteristic of that kind of folklore. >>> >>> What interested me is that I've been in an awful lot of public >>> bathrooms, of the female variety, and I virtually never saw any >>> of the kind of stuff Dundes described. What I saw on the walls >>> of women's bathrooms were sometimes political, sometimes feminist >>> (yes, the categories overlap a lot), and a large part asking for >>> help/advice on some topic, which would be answered at length. As >>> if the bathroom wall were a group Dear Abby. There was one long, >>> long thread on the subject of whether tampons caused toxic schock >>> and why; I won't give details in mixed company, but the thread >>> was about three feet long, everyone giving her separate opinion >>> (sometimes REPEATEDLY) and coming to no conclusion. In fact, it >>> was a lot like USENET. An interesting gender-based distinction, >>> and I wish I'd mentioned it to Dundes. (He died quite a while ago, >>> died as he had lived, in the midst of a discussion in a graduate >>> seminar.) >>> >> >> Could it be that those who own public spaces were more intent >> on keeping the distaff facilities clean and repainted, while >> those set aside for the "gents" would sometimes make one consider >> the severity of local laws against public urination? >> >> Note: I am not suggesting women are "cleaner" in public >> bathrooms. I have 5 sisters. I've heard stories....... >> >> I had a summer job making bathroom stalls back in the 1970s. >> The quest for surfaces that would not allow ink to set on them >> was a holy grail for some of the company engineers. We made >> both walls covered in Formica, and ones made of steel, and >> graffiti-writers could always scratch their message into the surface, >> when it resisted ink. >> >> Kevin R > > People have been defacing bathroom walls for many millennia. > Since before there were bathrooms, even! -- Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation instinct are running screaming.
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"On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 20:27 -0500
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-19 19:24 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 02:51 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 04:52 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 22:39 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:17 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 16:07 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:15 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-19 23:49 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 16:13 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-20 18:35 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:34 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 12:25 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:22 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 06:34 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:37 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 18:22 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:46 -0500
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 19:26 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 13:36 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:05 -0500
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 15:03 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 15:05 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 15:52 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:55 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 23:57 -0400
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-23 05:51 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:08 -0400
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:17 -0400
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-23 13:43 +0300
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 11:14 -0600
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 15:51 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-22 15:53 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 17:23 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 17:28 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:56 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 17:26 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 11:30 -0600
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-24 20:10 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 14:13 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 14:29 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 15:49 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-24 16:33 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 00:01 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:51 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 03:01 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 05:56 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:08 -0600
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-25 16:58 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-26 04:02 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-28 18:43 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 03:03 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-28 21:04 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-28 21:29 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-29 05:14 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 05:56 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 05:55 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 04:29 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:07 -0600
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-28 18:41 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-29 08:13 -0600
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-29 14:36 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:48 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 12:43 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 12:52 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 22:05 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 16:30 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:54 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:24 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 16:43 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:49 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:52 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:20 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-22 23:31 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:47 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-19 23:51 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 23:54 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-20 00:26 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 00:27 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:59 +0300
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 13:30 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-21 09:25 -0500
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 14:40 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-21 16:36 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 23:27 -0400
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:25 +0300
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 08:51 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 08:49 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 10:56 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:41 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 15:26 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:02 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 18:44 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-21 13:44 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:55 -0700
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:29 +0300
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 18:38 +0000
Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:22 -0400
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