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Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo

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From djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo
Message-ID <pB2HsI.Mwp@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date 2018-06-29 04:29 +0000
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In article <f00e8dd0-a285-464c-a19b-398b9ecd9a98@googlegroups.com>,
Moriarty  <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:30:04 PM UTC+10, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <45b6b909-e59d-4a9b-80fc-e431d538612d@googlegroups.com>,
>> Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 6:30:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> >> during which the protagonist and her lover had some
>> >> sort of trivial misunderstanding and it kept them apart for THE
>> >> ENTIRE BOOK.
>> >
>> >I could see that happening in a Victorian comedy of manners. But in a
>> >book about 
>> >primitive cave people? One would think they would have a more direct
>> >approach to 
>> >life.
>> 
>> In life, they probably did.  In the twentieth century, the author
>> was writing a category romance and had to figure out some way of
>> keeping hero and heroine (or H&H, as they say in the trade) apart
>> till Chapter Last.  Misunderstandings that neither party dares to
>> speak about (because the misunderstanding would vanish like snow
>> in August) are frequently used.
>
>Yeah but in this particular case ("The Mammoth Hunters" by Jean M Auel
>for those who came in late) the H&H are kept apart not only by them not
>taking five minutes to compare notes, but also by every single other
>person in tribe knowing precisely what was going on and NOT SAYING A
>THING! The whole wretched trainwreck was made worse by the author
>constantly describing the tribe as "forthright", "blunt" and other
>synonyms.

Heh.  Keep in mind, I recall very few details of that book.
However, it is not unlikely that the forthright tribesmen thought
H&H were entirely wrong for each other, and if only everybody
kept quiet, they'd eventually find somebody more suitable.

And they may have had something there.

In Real Life (tm) one frequently finds people (usually,
middle-aged to elderly women) who *know* what's good for the
young lovers, who are too young and foolish to realize it.
Sometimes they're right; sometimes they're wrong.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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    Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 04:52 +0000
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 22:39 -0700
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        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 16:07 +0000
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-22 15:53 -0700
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 17:28 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:56 +0000
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 11:30 -0600
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-26 04:02 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-28 18:43 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 03:03 +0000
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-29 05:14 +0000
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-22 23:31 +0000
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              Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:59 +0300
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 13:30 +0000
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                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 14:40 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-21 16:36 +0000
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            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 18:44 -0700
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