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Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?
Date	2018-05-27 02:35 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:48:50 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 1:05:22 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/18 7:59 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 2:37:05 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 12:31:53 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, here’s the definition for a centrifuge:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what?? I was not talking about a centrifuge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about the so called "centrifugal force"; there is no such
>>>>>>>>>>>>> force, as its definitions specify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto’s thinking is that if centrifugal force were not real, then
>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists would contact dictionary editors to remove the mention of
>>>>>>>>>>>> centrifugal force from the definition of centrifuge. And if physicists
>>>>>>>>>>>> failed to do this, then this is a deliberate attempt to confuse the public.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No moron, you claimed that the centrifugal force does not exist. The
>>>>>>>>>>> designers of the centrifuge based their design on the existence of
>>>>>>>>>>> the centrifugal force.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That is not a true statement. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To find out what the designers of 
>>>>>>>>>> centrifuges base the design on, one must read what they wrote about 
>>>>>>>>>> their design. You have not. You have just relied on your own guesses 
>>>>>>>>>> about what they used to design them.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why don’t you do that instead of making assertions as your argument?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I HAVE. You have not. 
>>>>>>>> Case closed. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then why did you say (assert) that centrifugal force doesn’t exist?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is a fictitious force, not a real force. 
>>>>>> Designers of centrifuges know this and their descriptions of how they work
>>>>>> get this right and do not make centrifugal force the underlying mechanism.
>>>>>> Editors of common dictionaries do not get it right. You do not get it
>>>>>> right. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Answer this: If centrifugal force doesn’t exist, what is the force they
>>>>> use to separate the U 235 from the rest of the U isotopes to make atomic
>>>>> bomb??? Also why do they called the machine they use to do the separation a centrifuge?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Buoyancy. Oil floats on water in a jar because of buoyancy, which pushes
>>>> oil up.  If you put oil and water in a centrifuge, the oil will be pushed
>>>> toward the center for the same reason.
>>> 
>>> Hey fool, oil is already floating on top of water. 
>> 
>> And if the axis of the centrifuge tube is horizontal? 
> 
> Without rotation the oil will still floats to the top of the water.
>> 
>>> I asked you: what force that separate the U325 from the rest of the
>>> U-isotopes. No answer on that.
>> 
>> I answered. Buoyancy. Which is a centripetal force. 
> 
> You answered nothing. You made assertions. 
> BTW, What is the Buoyancy force and what causes the Buoyancy force? 

Fluid pressure causes buoyancy force. Liquids and gases are both fluids. 

Buoyancy force is what makes corks and boats float in water, what makes
helium balloons rise, what makes ice on lakes stay on top. It’s in your
book, see table of contents. 

> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> They call it a centrifuge because it is a centrifuge. If you want to know
>>>> what principle governs the design and operation of a centrifuge, consult
>>>> the documentation of the designers.  Not a dictionary. Not your own head. 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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