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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Global Warming is a religion |
| Date | 2018-05-13 15:59 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <pda8vk$1ioo$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 5/13/2018 3:39 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 13/05/2018 4:06 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/12/2018 11:31 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2018 10:21 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2018 2:46 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 13/05/2018 1:20 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/11/2018 11:52 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/05/2018 2:11 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-7, James McGinn
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:43:02 AM UTC-7,
>>>>>>>>>>> pnal...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, Jim, you should be peddling your Snake Oil in another
>>>>>>>>>>>> forum, you have worn out your welcome in this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone knows, without a shred of a doubt, that you are just
>>>>>>>>>>>> another physics Crank with a goofy theory that has neither
>>>>>>>>>>>> observations nor experiments to offer as evidence to support
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are just another waste of oxygen who is in search of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, and there is zero chance that you are a physicist
>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't even know that basics of that branch of science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go away, once and for all...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.E.Worlds biggest air polluter will tell you the earth needs
>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>> dirty coal.Trump is now their big gun. Get the picture Bert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is beneficial. There is zero evidence that it warms the
>>>>>>>>>> atmosphere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the picture?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CO2 acts as an insulating blanket.Heat doesnot leak back into
>>>>>>>>> space.That is reality of global warming.Bert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you believe that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **You seem to think that science is a belief system. It isn't. Your
>>>>>>> beliefs are not relevant. Science involves hypothesis, theory,
>>>>>>> experiment and proof. The FACT that CO2 acts as a greenhouse gas was
>>>>>>> proven way back in the 19th century.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same with Water Vapor, it is a greenhouse gas, and dominates the
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> as it is 50%
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Not quite. Water vapour is certainly the dominant GHG, most of the
>>>>> time and in most places. To say that it's Solar forcing factor is
>>>>> 50% is
>>>>> a gross and highly misleading over-simplification. Depending on
>>>>> location, time of day and year, water vapour's Solar forcing ranges
>>>>> from
>>>>> 36% ~ 72%. CO2 ranges from 9% ~ 26%. So yes, water vapour is the
>>>>> dominant GHG, BUT, to label CO2 as 'insignificant' would be a really
>>>>> dumb thing to say. CO2 is a significant GHG.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so water vapor is 3 to 4 time greater than CO2.
>>>
>>> **Nope. Read what I wrote. It is not as simplistic as you would want it
>>> to be. Both gases vary considerably, depending on time of day and from
>>> year to year. In any case, why do you continue to try to simplify it?
>>> Just state the facts.
>>
>> its ratioed, 36%/9% =4 and 72%/26% = 3 good ballpark of 3 to 4.
>
> **This is not 'best guess' stuff. This is science. Your errors are so
> huge that any predictions of global warming, using your data would be
> utterly useless. Let's stick the actual data, not your wild approximations.
The data *you presented* says Water Vapor is 3 to 4 times greater than
CO2 at glowball warming.
get over it. it is simple math using your data. google " ratio "
guess you do not know math, which means you do not know science either.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And we cannot do anything about water vapor at all.
>>>
>>> **Well, not quite. A warming planet, through excessive CO2 emissions,
>>> causes more evaporation.
>>
>> and more evaporation causes more rain.
>
> **It MAY cause more rain, or it may cause more water vapour to remain in
> the atmosphere.
so which is it? and why? or are you waiting for me to tell you ?
>
>
> so, what are you propose to do
>> about water vapor ?
>
> **You keep asking that question. Refer to my previous responses. When
> you ask the question again, refer, again, to my previous responses.
your responce is un-responsive, like a zombie
>
>
> nothing, cant, that term cannot be fixed
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> and we cannot do anything about CO2 except 0.1% of it.
>>>
>>> **Really? How do you arrive at that figure?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> internet sources, here are some others, do you have any solid ones ?
>
> **Cite.
you do not have any other evidence to counter 0.1 % CO2
>
>>
>> Percentage we are (supposedly) responsible for= 0.1%
>
> **Cite.
>
>>
>> 0% is man made.
>
> **That would be extremely pedantic of you. Humans are responsible for
> the release of billions of Tonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere.
>
> The carbon has been on this planet since it was
>> created.
>
> **Duh.
>
>
> It was once in the air and was captured by plants that later
>> turned into coal and oil. Man is just releasing back into the air what
>> was once there in the first place. Right now there is about 380ppm of
>> CO2 in the air.
>
> **BZZTT! It's MUCH closer to 410ppm. It was 380ppm way back in 2006.
and that is only a 0.038% or 0.00038 of air.
of that human contribute less than 3% of that, or .0000114
parts per MILLION a trace gas bonehead
>
>
> In the past it was over 5000ppm and the earth did just
>> fine.
>
> **Well, it did, except sea levels were several hundred Metres higher
> than they are today. It was also MUCH hotter. Too hot for human
> survival.
URL ? how much hotter ? 1 degree C ? How much higher was the ocean
in feet ?
get to specifics.
And, to re-state:
>
> No one ever claimed that the planet would not be fine with higher
> atmospheric CO2 levels. The problem is that many humans will experience
> considerable difficulty with global warming.
>
> No tipping point.
<snip crap>
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Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:56 -0700
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Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:55 -0700
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Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 18:16 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 13:18 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 15:28 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:02 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 23:03 -0500
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Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 20:58 -0400
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Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 14:52 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 10:20 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 14:55 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:27 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:46 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:21 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 14:31 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 01:06 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 06:39 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 15:59 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:13 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 13:10 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 06:32 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 16:05 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 08:27 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 20:08 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 13:30 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 18:36 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 20:14 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:36 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:42 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 19:19 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:53 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-10 12:54 -0700
Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 11:19 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:23 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:35 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:28 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-11 13:52 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 07:45 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 06:49 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 18:27 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 11:59 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 00:02 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:13 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 12:00 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 10:25 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 15:00 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:40 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 06:01 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:17 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:07 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 22:13 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 13:40 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 14:52 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-05-12 16:03 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-12 17:45 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 16:18 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:22 -0500
Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 17:57 -0700
Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 14:42 -0400
Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:49 +1000
Re: Global Warming is a religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 04:34 -0700
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