Re: Global Warming is a religion

From	Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Global Warming is a religion
Date	2018-05-13 01:06 -0500
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On 5/12/2018 11:31 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 13/05/2018 10:21 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/12/2018 2:46 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2018 1:20 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/11/2018 11:52 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 12/05/2018 2:11 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 1:18:59 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:43:02 AM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Really, Jim, you should be peddling your Snake Oil in another
>>>>>>>>>> forum, you have worn out your welcome in this one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Everyone knows, without a shred of a doubt, that you are just
>>>>>>>>>> another physics Crank with a goofy theory that has neither
>>>>>>>>>> observations nor experiments to offer as evidence to support it.
>>>>>>>>>> You are just another waste of oxygen who is in search of an
>>>>>>>>>> audience, and there is zero chance that you are a physicist since
>>>>>>>>>> you don't even know that basics of that branch of science.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go away, once and for all...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.E.Worlds biggest air polluter will tell you the earth needs its
>>>>>>>>> dirty coal.Trump is now their big gun. Get the picture Bert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 is beneficial.  There is zero evidence that it warms the
>>>>>>>> atmosphere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get the picture?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CO2 acts as an insulating blanket.Heat doesnot leak back into
>>>>>>> space.That is reality of global warming.Bert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you believe that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **You seem to think that science is a belief system. It isn't. Your
>>>>> beliefs are not relevant. Science involves hypothesis, theory,
>>>>> experiment and proof. The FACT that CO2 acts as a greenhouse gas was
>>>>> proven way back in the 19th century.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> same with Water Vapor, it is a greenhouse gas, and dominates the others
>>>> as it is 50%
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Not quite. Water vapour is certainly the dominant GHG, most of the
>>> time and in most places. To say that it's Solar forcing factor is 50% is
>>> a gross and highly misleading over-simplification. Depending on
>>> location, time of day and year, water vapour's Solar forcing ranges from
>>> 36% ~ 72%. CO2 ranges from 9% ~ 26%. So yes, water vapour is the
>>> dominant GHG, BUT, to label CO2 as 'insignificant' would be a really
>>> dumb thing to say. CO2 is a significant GHG.
>>>
>>
>> so water vapor is 3 to 4 time greater than CO2.
> 
> **Nope. Read what I wrote. It is not as simplistic as you would want it
> to be. Both gases vary considerably, depending on time of day and from
> year to year. In any case, why do you continue to try to simplify it?
> Just state the facts.

its ratioed,  36%/9% =4  and 72%/26% = 3   good ballpark of 3 to 4.

> 
>>
>> And we cannot do anything about water vapor at all.
> 
> **Well, not quite. A warming planet, through excessive CO2 emissions,
> causes more evaporation.

and more evaporation causes more rain. so, what are you propose to do
about water vapor ?   nothing, cant, that term cannot be fixed

> 
> 
>>
>> and we cannot do anything about CO2 except 0.1% of it.
> 
> **Really? How do you arrive at that figure?
> 
> 

internet sources, here are some others, do you have any solid ones ?

Percentage we are (supposedly) responsible for= 0.1%

 0% is man made. The carbon has been on this planet since it was
created. It was once in the air and was captured by plants that later
turned into coal and oil. Man is just releasing back into the air what
was once there in the first place. Right now there is about 380ppm of
CO2 in the air. In the past it was over 5000ppm and the earth did just
fine. No tipping point.

About 6% comes from human activities , totally overwhelmed by natural
sources.

So before it was something like 0.3% but over the last 20 years it has
risen to 0.4%, and so that is what is causing all the problems...

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Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:56 -0700
  Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-10 10:42 -0700
    Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:55 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 12:25 -0700
        Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-10 16:06 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 16:30 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-10 17:26 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 18:16 -0700
        Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 13:18 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 15:28 -0500
            Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:02 -0400
              Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 23:03 -0500
          Re: Global Warming is a religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-11 14:49 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 20:58 -0400
          Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 21:11 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 21:42 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 14:52 +1000
              Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 10:20 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 14:55 -0400
                Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:27 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:46 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:21 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 14:31 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 01:06 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 06:39 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 15:59 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 07:13 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 13:10 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 06:32 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 16:05 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 08:27 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 20:08 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-17 13:30 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 18:36 -0400
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-16 20:14 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:36 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:42 +1000
        Re: Global Warming is a religion Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 19:19 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:53 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is a religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-10 12:54 -0700
    Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 11:19 -0700
    Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:23 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:35 -0700
        Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:28 -0700
  Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-11 13:52 +1000
    Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 07:45 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 06:49 +1000
        Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 18:27 -0500
          Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 11:59 +1000
            Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 00:02 -0500
        Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 21:13 -0400
          Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-12 12:00 +1000
            Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 10:25 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 15:00 -0400
            Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:40 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 06:01 +1000
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:17 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:07 -0400
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 22:13 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is a religion pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 13:40 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 14:52 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-05-12 16:03 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-12 17:45 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 16:18 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is a religion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:22 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is a religion James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 17:57 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is a religion benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 14:42 -0400
              Re: Global Warming is a religion Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 05:49 +1000
      Re: Global Warming is a religion Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 04:34 -0700

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