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Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh!

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh!
Date 2018-05-06 00:54 +0000
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The nymshifting troll, trolling as Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> trolls:

>Paul B. Andersen wrote:

>>> There is no need to challenge Koobee Wublee.  Koobee Wublee is just an exorcist attempting to demystify the Einstein dingleberries.  Perhaps, when the Einstein dingleberries are demystified, Koobee Wublee shall present the true laws of nature instead of these manmade laws of physics.  <shrug>
>> 
>> Frustrating not to be able to calculate "the same thing" as I can?
>> 
>> I can even calculate it for a number of different satellites.
>> 
>>       satellite | altitude | gravit. t.d.| kinetic t.d. | total t.d
>>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>            ISS     410 km     3.6 µs/day   -28.1 µs/day   -24.5 µs/day
>>           ZERO    3175 km    20.0 µs/day   -20.0 µs/day     0.0 µs/day
>>        GLONASS   19146 km    45.1 µs/day    -7.4 µs/day    37.7 µs/day
>>            GPS   20200 km    45.6 µs/day    -7.1 µs/day    38.5 µs/day
>>        Galileo   23630 km    47.3 µs/day    -6.3 µs/day    41.0 µs/day
>> Geostationary   35800 km    51.0 µs/day    -4.4 µs/day    46.6 µs/day
>>     Moon orbit  378035 km    59.1 µs/day    -0.4 µs/day    58.7 µs/day
>> 
>> Can you?
>> No?
>> Thought so! :-D

>You can't have a total time dilation as negative, my friend.

You most certainly can, nymshifter. Didn't you learn SR and time dilation?
That's what the "kinetic t.d." column is in Paul's chart. Also if it were
possible for a satellite to orbit the earth underground, the gravitational
time dilation would also be negative. And the total is, well, the total.
Is that too complicated for stupid nymshifters?

> Or, as I 
>can see, you are taking the relative to earth, reference 0 (zero),
>mark on the needle scale.

Since those are ORBITS, ground level would not be 0. The gravitational
t.d. would be 0 for a theoretical satellite orbiting at ground level, but
the kinetic portion would be quite large, maybe -30 uS/day.
Of course such a satellite wouldn't orbit for very long before striking
a mountain, HARD.

> How about taking the zero time dilation as
>the absolute zero time dilation, what numbers would be those. 

What are you babbling about now?

>Dr. Koobee is pretty much consistent.

Yeah, consistently wrong.

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And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:23 +0100
  Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-01 13:38 -0400
    Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 15:43 -0700
      Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 16:16 -0700
        Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 15:46 +0200
          Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 10:44 -0700
            Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 21:29 +0200
              Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:54 -0700
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 15:18 -0700
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              Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 15:14 -0700
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-05 21:04 +0200
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-05 19:24 +0000
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-06 00:54 +0000
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-06 20:26 +0200
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-05-07 14:39 +0000
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 17:21 -0700
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-06 11:31 +0200
                Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-06 19:59 +0000
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    Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:06 +0100
      Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 14:27 -0500
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          Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:52 -0500
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      Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-03 14:15 -0700
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  Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:05 +0100

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