Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo

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From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo
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Date	2018-06-20 16:13 +0000
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In article <60367f15-504f-4ea3-82e1-e92f4bcaf0e2@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 11:15:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> I know nothing about John Ringo except
>
>I'm not inclined to criticize you for the one thing you thought you knew not 
>being so: I had no idea who edited the Lord Darcy stories recently.
>
>Have you heard of David Weber? He is most famous for what is now a fairly 
>lengthy series of books of space opera that owe a considerable amount of their 
>inspiration to Horatio Hornblower - acknowledged by naming their protagonist 
>Honor Harrington.

Yes, I read several of the early ones back in the day (that day
being, when we had more book money).  Hal read them first, and
told me all the funny bits.  So I read some of them myself, and
discovered, alas, that the funny bits could be compared to way
too few plums in an otherwise dry and near-endless cake composed
mostly of what my son calls spaceship porn.

But I have read ALL of Horatio Hornblower, who was a much better
writer.

>Those books are Mil-Sf, and their chief attraction to some fans is their 
>detailed descriptions of space battles.

So I must assume.
>
>John Ringo has co-authored some books with David Weber, and also written
>some as 
>a guest author in spin-off books about his characters.
>
>John Ringo specializes more in blood-and-guts in his own works, handled by the 
>same publisher.
>
>Also, he is infamous for getting some things "out of his system" in a
>(probably, 
>but not perhaps obviously enough) somewhat tongue-in-cheek book about a very 
>capable soldier who rescues hostages from terrorists... and offends against as 
>many sacred cows of political correctness as he can while doing it.
>
>At this point, you know enough about him to realize why some people may
>not like him.

To the extent that one can legitimately dislike a person solely
on the basis of what someone else has just told one about his
work, yes.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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"On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 20:27 -0500
  Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-19 19:24 -0700
  Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 02:51 +0000
    Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 04:52 +0000
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 22:39 -0700
        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:17 +0000
        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 16:07 +0000
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:15 +0000
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-19 23:49 -0700
        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 16:13 +0000
          Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-20 18:35 -0700
            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:34 -0700
              Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 12:25 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:22 -0700
          Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 06:34 -0700
            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:37 -0700
              Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 18:22 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:46 -0500
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 19:26 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 13:36 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:05 -0500
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 15:03 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 15:05 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 15:52 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:55 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 23:57 -0400
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-23 05:51 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:08 -0400
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:17 -0400
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-23 13:43 +0300
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 11:14 -0600
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 15:51 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-22 15:53 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 17:23 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 17:28 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:56 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 17:26 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 11:30 -0600
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-24 20:10 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 14:13 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 14:29 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 15:49 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-24 16:33 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 00:01 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:51 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 03:01 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 05:56 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:08 -0600
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-25 16:58 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-26 04:02 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-28 18:43 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 03:03 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-28 21:04 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-28 21:29 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-29 05:14 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 05:56 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 05:55 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-29 04:29 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:07 -0600
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-28 18:41 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-29 08:13 -0600
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-29 14:36 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:48 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 12:43 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 12:52 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-25 22:05 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 16:30 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:54 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:24 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 16:43 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:49 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-22 23:52 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:20 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-22 23:31 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 16:47 -0700
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-19 23:51 -0700
        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 23:54 -0700
          Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-20 00:26 -0700
            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 00:27 -0700
              Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-20 13:59 +0300
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 13:30 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-21 09:25 -0500
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 14:40 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-21 16:36 +0000
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 23:27 -0400
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:25 +0300
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 08:51 -0700
        Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 08:49 -0700
          Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 10:56 -0700
            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:41 -0700
              Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 15:26 -0700
                Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:02 -0700
            Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 18:44 -0700
  Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-21 13:44 +0000
    Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 09:55 -0700
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-21 21:29 +0300
      Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 18:38 +0000
    Re: "On the subject of slander" by John Ringo Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 14:22 -0400

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