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Re: MatheRealism in geometry

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.math
Subject Re: MatheRealism in geometry
Date 2018-03-12 16:51 -0700
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On 3/12/2018 4:06 PM, John Gabriel wrote:
> On Monday, 12 March 2018 19:02:00 UTC-4, John Gabriel  wrote:
>> On Monday, 12 March 2018 18:41:51 UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson  wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2018 3:21 PM, John Gabriel wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 12 March 2018 18:05:03 UTC-4, Python  wrote:
>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> John Gabriel wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Recursion is very problematic. No sound application uses recursion.
>>>>>>>>> No matter what you do to make it better, it can always fail for a
>>>>>>>>> multitude of reasons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This claim from John Gabriel, allegedly software engineer, is
>>>>>>>> outrageously wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say that recursion can be problematic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't object to that claim, I objected to this one, from Mr Gabriel:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> No sound application uses recursion.
>>>>>>> No matter what you do to make it better, it can always fail for a
>>>>>>> multitude of reasons.
>>>>
>>>> You can object all you like, but it won't change the fact that you are wrong! As always.
>>>
>>> It is not fun when a threads stack actually does blow up. One time, the
>>> recursion was not even that deep, however, prior functions that called
>>> it used a lot of stack space already. And, well, that made the recursion
>>> very scary.
>>
>> The main problem with recursion is that it is implemented differently by different compilers. So you may think it is doing what it was on a different compiler when in fact it is not.
>>
>> In an enterprise scenario (the real world, not the Mickey Mouse world of jean pierre messager who lives at school!), you will never use recursion because i) there is no need ii) it can lead to many problems iii) it is difficult to maintain iv) you cannot simply change the parameter list of a recursive function and expect it to work flawlessly - you can do this if the function code needs no modification v) if you are using abstract data structures such as linked lists, then you may end up in hell. vi) if you are allocating/deallocating memory the program can fail because of memory leaks even if your recursive routine doesn't fail.
>>
>> See, recursion is for college school boys. They react: "Wow. Isn't this cool?"
>>
>> "Let's do everything with recursion!"
>>
>> But obviously they are stupid and wet behind the ears. Chuckle.
>>
>> End of computer science lesson.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> GLSL shaders do not allow any recursive calls.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what?
>>>>
> 
> If I were asked the following question, how do you think I would answer?
> 
> "Mr. Gabriel, will you feel safer if you wrote the code for this self-flying airplane or a team of engineers from the best corporations in the world?"
> 
> Chuckle. The answer is obvious: I would feel safer if I wrote it!
> 
> I don't trust compilers or other programmers - they suffer from Computer Dunning Kruger Syndrome.

Check this out:

http://www.stroustrup.com/JSF-AV-rules.pdf


> It's pathetic how stupid morons like python, burse, etc think they can use computer code as proof of a mathematical statement.
> 
> Stupid, very stupid. Tsk, tsk.
> 

Code is not a "proof", but rather a means to actually implement 
something. The code can be used in conjunction with a proof.

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MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-03 00:28 -0800
  Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 07:04 -0800
    Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 01:22 -0800
      Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 04:26 -0800
        Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 08:25 -0800
          Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 08:33 -0800
            Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 08:39 -0800
              Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 09:18 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 10:49 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:15 -0800
  Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 04:48 -0800
  Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 04:51 -0800
    Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 08:44 -0800
      Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 09:22 -0800
        Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 11:10 -0800
          Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:22 -0800
            Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 13:24 -0800
              Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 13:34 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 23:06 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-05 09:05 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-05 10:07 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-05 10:26 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-06 06:12 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-06 06:24 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-06 06:27 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-06 09:17 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 09:53 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 21:19 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 11:02 +0100
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-07 02:37 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 23:49 +0100
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 15:24 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-08 02:05 +0100
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-07 19:02 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 05:47 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 10:13 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 11:03 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 11:07 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 11:07 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 11:12 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 11:15 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 11:06 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-07 04:18 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-07 15:40 +0100
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-07 23:40 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 05:50 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-08 07:40 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 09:15 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-08 11:34 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 11:41 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-08 20:41 +0100
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 12:55 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-08 13:25 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-08 13:31 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 14:37 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 14:42 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 15:35 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 14:46 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-03-08 15:34 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 15:54 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 15:57 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 16:03 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 16:31 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 16:37 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 17:19 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-03-08 17:41 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-09 00:00 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-10 14:32 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 15:40 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 15:41 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-10 15:53 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 17:57 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-11 07:02 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-11 13:03 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-11 13:21 -0700
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 13:56 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 14:00 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 14:37 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 14:54 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-12 23:04 +0100
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 15:13 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-12 15:21 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-12 15:41 -0700
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-12 16:01 -0700
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-12 17:08 -0700
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 19:45 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 22:17 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 23:27 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-08 23:35 -0800
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