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Re: MatheRealism in geometry

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Date 2018-03-08 09:22 -0800
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Subject Re: MatheRealism in geometry
From bursejan@gmail.com

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The paradox holds also for sinus, there you
don't get only two different slopes 0 and oo,
also it depends on whether you rotate the
example or not, what slopes are involved.

But this diagram does not commute:

      (f_n)  lim n->oo   f
        +--------------->+
        |                |
  d/dx  |                | d/dx
        |                |
        v                v
        +--------------->+
      (f_n') lim n->oo   f' 

And by committing yourself that the "fractal"
smoothes out into a "line", you already accept
a notion of limit, the upper arrow (f_n) -> f,
nobody cares if you afterwards cry, no no, 

there are no final steps. Thats just childish.
Now you can assume the same notion of limit
is in place in the lower arrow (f_n') -> f',
be it an invention of JG or any other invention

of a limit, the diagram will not commute.
You know why, don't you?

Hint: Because lim n->oo lim h->0 and lim h->0 
lim n->oo don't give the same result.

Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 18:15:07 UTC+1 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> The derivative is need for the arc length. You
> can also use the vulgar term "slope".
> 
> When you have a rectangle (0,0)-(dx,dy), by 
> pythagoras, the diagonal has length:
> 
>     sqrt(dy^2 + dx^2)
> 
> Algebraiccally this is the same as:
> 
>     sqrt((dy/dx)^2 + 1) * dx
> 
> Now dy/dx is vulgar the "slope". But you can also
> view it as derivative:
> 
>     sqrt(f'(x)^2 + 1) * dx
> 
> Or how do you compute the arc length in the
> Augsburg Crank institute? By placing some
> Omlettes and driving a Volkswagen along the
> 
> arc length? Or maybe like JG, with a butt sex
> axiom and 3=<4 invalid?
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:40:57 UTC+1 schrieb WM:
> > Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 15:08:12 UTC+1 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> > 
> > 
> > > one would say, the following doesn't commute:
> > > 
> > >      (f_n)  lim n->oo   f
> > >        +--------------->+
> > >        |                |
> > >  d/dx  |                | d/dx
> > >        |                |
> > >        v                v
> > >        +--------------->+
> > >      (f_n') lim n->oo   f'
> > > 
> > There is no derivative involved. If so, then only 0 and oo would appear. But they don't appear.
> > 
> > Regards, WM

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MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-03 00:28 -0800
  Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 07:04 -0800
    Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 01:22 -0800
      Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 04:26 -0800
        Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 08:25 -0800
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            Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 08:39 -0800
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                Re: MatheRealism in geometry WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-03-04 10:49 -0800
                Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 11:15 -0800
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      Re: MatheRealism in geometry John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 09:22 -0800
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