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Re: LAN/WLAN

From Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net>
Newsgroups de.comp.sys.notebooks
Subject Re: LAN/WLAN
Date 2015-10-16 08:46 +0200
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Guten Tag

Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> schrieb

>Am hinteren Teil des WLAN-Routers stehen Geräte-Passwort, WLAN-Name
>(SSID) und WLAN-Schlüssel (WPA, WPA 2), die ich dann irgendwann im Laufe
>des Tages in die Netz-Karte einfüge. 

IMHO: Da jeder mit Zugang zu dem Router diese Daten
abschreiben/abfotografieren kann ist es nicht wirklich sinnvoll diese
Daten unveraendert laenger als noetig zu benutzen.
bei einigen Aelteren Routern war es sogar so, dass mindestens eine der
Angaben sich aus Geraetedaten ableiten lies (Beispielsweise aus der
MAC-Adresse). In den Faellen konnte jemand sogar ohne physikalischen
Zugang zu dem Geraet die notwendigen Anmeldedaten aus der luft fischen
und den fehlenden Rest kurzfristig berechnen.
Und Dein Router ist ein nicht wirklich aktuelles Modell.

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LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 21:25 +0200
  Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-11 22:39 +0200
    Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 04:49 +0200
      Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 06:53 +0200
        Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 08:47 +0200
          Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-12 09:13 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 15:34 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Kay Martinen <kay@martinen.de> - 2015-10-13 21:11 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 19:07 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2015-10-13 14:39 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-13 15:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-14 11:04 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 13:49 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-14 14:35 +0200
      Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-12 17:56 +0200
        Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 19:01 +0200
          Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 20:10 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:29 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 22:04 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:11 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 15:47 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-10-12 22:00 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 09:26 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-13 09:47 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:00 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-13 13:09 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 16:22 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Michael Limburg <mlimb@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 14:44 +0000
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 16:59 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Michael Limburg <mlimb@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 15:03 +0000
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-14 17:15 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 17:56 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2015-10-14 20:54 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 04:10 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-15 09:35 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 12:45 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-15 23:27 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 08:46 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 09:21 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 09:37 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:32 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Manfred Schulz <ng_2022@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-16 12:23 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 12:48 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Manfred Schulz <ng_2022@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-16 13:08 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-16 13:43 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 14:10 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 14:21 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 14:48 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 16:12 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 16:57 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 18:18 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 20:50 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-17 11:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Kay Martinen <kay@martinen.de> - 2015-10-17 13:37 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 14:28 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-17 17:28 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-17 13:17 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 13:58 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-17 14:11 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 14:57 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN frank paulsen <frank.paulsen@gmx.net> - 2015-10-17 21:09 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:22 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-19 09:20 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 10:01 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-16 13:32 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Manfred Schulz <ng_2022@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-16 16:51 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-16 12:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-15 07:54 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 20:06 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2015-10-13 14:42 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-13 15:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Thomas Schmidt" <thomas.nospam.schmidt@web.de> - 2015-10-13 15:16 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 15:30 +0200
          Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-12 22:12 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 22:17 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-13 20:32 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 08:56 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-14 13:57 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 15:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-14 16:36 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-14 17:16 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 11:11 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-15 13:09 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 13:56 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Jonas Klein <Jonas_Klein@habmalnefrage.de> - 2015-10-15 15:08 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 15:45 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 16:13 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 15:39 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 17:15 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-14 18:30 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 11:01 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 13:07 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-15 17:21 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 18:21 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN frank paulsen <frank.paulsen@gmx.net> - 2015-10-15 20:01 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-15 21:13 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 20:26 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-18 12:23 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-16 09:14 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-16 09:49 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-18 12:16 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-18 20:13 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-19 10:26 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-20 05:57 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-14 23:24 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-15 09:36 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-15 17:44 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2015-10-15 18:28 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN yippie@peter-eggebrecht.de (Peter Eggebrecht) - 2015-10-18 14:01 +0200
                Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-14 10:59 +0200
            Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 09:53 +0200
              Re: LAN/WLAN Ralph Angenendt <ihr.name@strg-alt-entf.org> - 2015-10-13 12:35 +0000
              Re: LAN/WLAN Thomas Einzel <usenet-2015@einzel.de> - 2015-10-13 17:49 +0200
  Re: LAN/WLAN Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2015-10-12 06:41 +0200
  Re: LAN/WLAN Gerd Schweizer <gerd@satgerd.de> - 2015-10-12 16:16 +0200
  Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-12 19:15 +0200
    Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 19:29 +0200
      Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-13 20:32 +0200
        Re: LAN/WLAN Dieter Intas <dieterintas@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 21:14 +0200
    Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-13 11:48 +0200
      Re: LAN/WLAN Kay Martinen <kay@martinen.de> - 2015-10-13 22:59 +0200
        Re: LAN/WLAN Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-10-14 09:08 +0200
        Re: LAN/WLAN "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-14 10:01 +0200

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