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Re: xkcd: 2018

From wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: xkcd: 2018
Date 2018-01-02 22:14 +0000
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In article <d2qn4d14ctk3n005po6ls89vu2lmvf9mhk@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
Lawrence Watt-Evans  <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote:

>The house I grew up in had four exterior doors.  They all had a small
>area inside for doffing muddy boots or whatever.  The ones at the
>front and rear doors were vestibules; the one at the northwest door
>was a mud room (basically, a larger vestibule), and the south door
>opened into a small hallway lined with coathooks that we called "the
>kitchen hall" because it opened into the kitchen.  We wouldn't ever
>have considered anything in a private home to be a lobby.

The house I grew up in (in Vermont) had three exterior doors.  We
moved in before it was finished, so we switched off doors depending on
what part of the house my father was working on -- but we never, ever
used the front door, which opened onto a steep terraced lawn with
about thirty steps down to the middle of the (steep) driveway.  Not
even when attempting to mow the lawn.

Once the garage was finished, we would use the back door -- which
communicated directly between a back deck and the family room -- for
outdoor activities like walking or skiing, and the garage door when
driving somewhere.  I can't exactly remember where the downstairs
closet was, but I think it was immediately opposite the stairs up from
the basement/garage.  (But I'm having trouble reconciling this with my
other memories of the layout of that house.)

My recollection of the traditional New England Colonial design is that
it was "four over four", with the ground-floor front entry opening
onto the stairs to the second level, with the dining room to one side,
the parlor to the other, and the kitchen in the rear.  You might have
a "front hall" or "foyer", but in the very earliest designs there was
no floor space wasted on hallways.  Bedrooms were of course upstairs.

-GAWollman
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          Re: xkcd: 2018 William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 12:23 -0800
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            Re: xkcd: 2018 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-30 21:10 +0000
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                Re: xkcd: 2018 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-31 15:05 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 11:06 -0500
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                Re: xkcd: 2018 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-31 17:26 +0000
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                Re: xkcd: 2018 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-31 17:02 +0000
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                Re: xkcd: 2018 wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-01-01 03:33 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-01 05:19 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-01-01 06:40 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-01-01 06:48 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-01 18:22 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: xkcd: 2018 Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 15:20 -0500
                Re: xkcd: 2018 wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2018-01-02 22:14 +0000
                Re: xkcd: 2018 Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-01-03 02:21 -0500
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