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Re: Yay, faux meat!

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups rec.food.cooking, aus.politics, alt.food.vegan
Subject Re: Yay, faux meat!
Date 2026-07-02 10:29 +1000
Message-ID <op.3rs4z1ixbyq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink)
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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> squillage <yy@aba.et> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> So killing is ok, provided you do it a certain way?

>>>>>>> Plants get killed too, do they have a "certain way"?

>>>>>>> Does having your feet chopped off and being put in a bag in the
>>>>>>> cold frig before being boiled alive sound human?

>>>>>>> What did broccoli ever do to you, trollass oztard?

>>>>>> I feel your pain.  Restaurants here are known to inflate pieces of
>>>>>> meat, like steak, by mechanically tenderizing and so increasing its
>>>>>> volume.

>>>>> Mechanically tenderizing meat actually reduces its volume

>>>> Well no, it merely perforates it.

>>> The AI robot has vindicated me, saying these's no change in the
>>> volume...

>> YOU claimed it increases the volume liar

>>> Hi, what effect does mechanical tenderizing have on meat?

>>> Mechanical tenderizing changes meat by physically breaking down some
>>> of its structure, making it easier to chew and sometimes changing how
>>> it cooks.

>>> The main effects are:

>>> * **Breaks muscle fibers:** Blades, needles, or pounding disrupt long
>>> muscle fibers, reducing toughness.
>>> * **Cuts connective tissue:** The process severs some collagen-rich
>>> connective tissue, which contributes to a more tender texture,
>>> especially in tougher cuts.
>>> * **Improves marinade penetration:** Needle or blade tenderizing
>>> creates small channels that allow marinades, seasonings, and brines to
>>> penetrate deeper into the meat.
>>> * **Can improve cooking consistency:** Heat can move more evenly
>>> through the meat because of the small channels created, although the
>>> effect is usually modest.

>>> There are a few trade-offs:

>>> * **Food safety:** If bacteria are present on the surface of the meat,
>>> blade or needle tenderizing can push them into the interior. That's
>>> why mechanically tenderized beef should generally be cooked to a
>>> higher internal temperature than an intact steak. In some countries,
>>> mechanically tenderized beef is labeled to inform consumers.
>>> * **Texture changes:** Over-tenderizing can make meat feel mushy or
>>> give it a slightly processed texture, particularly with repeated
>>> passes through a tenderizer.
>>> * **Appearance:** Needle or blade marks may be visible on the surface,
>>> and pounding can flatten and widen the cut.

>>> There are several common methods:

>>> * **Needle or blade tenderizing:** Uses many small blades or needles
>>> to cut through muscle fibers and connective tissue while largely
>>> preserving the meat's overall shape.
>>> * **Pounding:** A meat mallet physically flattens the meat

Which means it reduces the volume, fuckwit

>>> and breaks
>>> down fibers.
>>> * **Cubing:** A machine with textured rollers produces the
>>> characteristic cube pattern seen on cube steak.

>>> Mechanical tenderizing is especially useful for naturally tougher
>>> cuts, such as chuck, round, or flank, while naturally tender cuts like
>>> tenderloin usually don't benefit much from it unless the goal is to
>>> create an even thickness for cooking.

>>> AND VOLUME?
>>> You're welcome! Mechanical tenderizing has a relatively small effect
>>> on the **overall volume** of meat, but the direction and magnitude
>>> depend on the method used.

>>> * **Needle or blade tenderizing:** The volume changes very little. The
>>> meat may become slightly more compressible because the muscle fibers
>>> and connective tissue have been cut, but its external dimensions
>>> remain almost the same.
>>> * **Pounding with a mallet:** The meat becomes **thinner and wider**.
>>> Its apparent surface area increases while its thickness decreases. The
>>> total volume stays close to the same because the meat is being
>>> reshaped rather than significantly compressed.
>>> * **Cubing machines:** These create indentations and stretch the meat
>>> slightly, so it may appear larger in surface area, but again the
>>> actual volume changes very little.

>>> One important indirect effect is on **water retention**:

>>> See, and now Rod Smith might proffer a belly-crawl retraction, like
>>> right now!

>> Not when it proves you got it wrong, fuckwit

> Well, I said it increases,

And your AI says it doesn't

> you said decreases.

And your AI says that is what happens when you use a meat mallet

> so it's neutral,

Bullshit it is

> I suppose I had to make a mistake one day.

You always do

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                Re: Yay, faux meat! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:10 -0700
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-02 14:21 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:53 -0700
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                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 07:48 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-01 09:19 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 01:48 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 12:02 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 07:37 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:11 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-02 23:04 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 08:17 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:35 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-03 09:14 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 19:17 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 09:25 +0000
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                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-05 02:34 +0000
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                Re: Yay, faux meat! heyjoe <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-05 11:26 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-03 09:12 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-03 09:28 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:20 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:19 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-05 02:38 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:17 -0600
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                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:21 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:12 -0500
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:43 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:16 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:07 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-07-03 21:42 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:09 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-01 09:37 +0000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:43 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-01 09:18 -0600
          Re: Yay, faux meat! Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-06-29 14:08 -0400
            Re: Yay, faux meat! Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 05:57 +1000
              Re: Yay, faux meat! Max Milyon <invalid@in.valid> - 2026-06-29 16:17 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-01 09:26 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-06-30 17:49 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:32 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-01 11:16 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 11:45 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-01 13:54 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 16:09 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-01 17:19 +0100
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-01 09:12 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-01 09:11 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-02 06:56 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 07:18 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-02 08:54 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 10:29 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-02 14:11 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 07:18 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-03 09:07 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 09:37 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-03 10:05 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 11:24 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:05 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:22 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 02:25 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 13:31 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-06 09:02 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 09:00 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 02:24 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-03 13:29 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 09:45 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:44 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-06 09:02 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 10:01 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 11:07 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 12:34 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 14:35 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:49 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 03:51 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 13:54 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 10:19 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 06:12 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 08:44 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 09:02 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 11:11 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 12:38 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 15:08 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 13:23 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 17:15 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 15:38 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 18:33 -0400
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 22:30 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-06 08:59 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 08:36 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-06 10:08 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:09 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 22:39 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 16:48 +1000
                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-06 08:11 -0600
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                Re: Yay, faux meat! squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-02 14:09 -0600
                Re: Yay, faux meat! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 07:16 +1000
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