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| From | "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? |
| Date | 2017-09-07 21:22 +1000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <oora5t$140a$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 07/09/17 04:01, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 9/6/17 10:09 AM, HGW, DSc. wrote: >> Not at all. You are confusing measurements with units. Naturally if >> two identical units refer to different quantities, they have >> entirely difference significance. 10345 seconds is obviously >> different from 10345 hours....or flying pigs. 10 apples are not the >> same as 10 potatoes either but the numbers have the same meaning in >> all reference frames. > > And a measured speed of 50 mph for a car in the rest frame of the > light pole is different than the measured speed of 90 mph for the > same car in the rest frame of the police cruiser going the opposite > way. > > It's really a pity that you do not understand that some sets of > measured numbers are observer dependent. Hell, even Newton knew > that. A number has a specific meaning. It describes how many are in a group. I will concede however that these days, we are often asked to rate something on a scale, such as '0 to 10'. That is really a misuse of number because it is not specific enough. Numbers have exact values. Anyway, this nonsense has gone on long enough. You are just trying to waste my time. I repeat, "if two things are identical in one frame, they are identical in all frames. Sameness is not frame dependent...and that fact brings down Einstein RoS. >>>> Bodkin, any instability will disappear in a very short time >>>> after inertial state is re-established. >>> >>> Let's calculate that short time and see if it is insignificant >>> compared to the times involved in the relativistic examples you >>> are posing. >> >> Bodkin, procrastinaing will not help you. My examples are those >> Einstein used to create his bogus RoS. Any transients involved are >> the same for him and me. The fact that he later claimed the moving >> rod was contracted makes no difference to my proof that his theory >> leads to a logical impossibility. > > So you can't calculate it? How about if I tell you the speed of sound > in the material you pick. In other words, if I lift a little finger > for you, where you can't. > >
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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-26 09:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-27 09:17 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 08:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 16:35 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 08:49 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:52 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 14:55 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:15 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:55 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:01 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:58 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 01:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:01 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 21:22 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 04:35 -0700
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 16:40 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:30 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:30 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:50 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 09:29 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-09 17:12 -0700
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