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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?
Date 2017-09-05 08:55 -0500
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On 9/5/17 5:15 AM, HGW wrote:
> On 05/09/17 10:42, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> HGW <HW@home.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>
>>>>> So '5 apples in a box' can mean '4 apples in a box' if you are moving
>>>>> fast enough, Is that the kind of thing you
>>>>> are saying Bodkin?
>>>>
>>>> You apparently cannot read. Read again the paragraph above that starts
>>>> "Some sets of measured numbers...."
>>>
>>> I see now. So 1 2 3 4 5 can be 3 9 6 7 5 if one moves in the right way?
>>> Is that what you are saying.
>>
>> Are they measurements?
> 
> Do they look like anything in particular?

They should if you look carefully enough. Idiots will pretend that 
measurements aren't measurements by squinting. Are you an idiot?

> 
>>>>> Bodkin, in Einstein's RoS, there are two rigidly connected clocks,
>>>>
>>>> Rigid connections are impossible, even in an ideal world. They violate
>>>> the known laws of physics. Attempting to make
>>>> a point by supposing the existence of something that cannot possibly 
>>>> exist proves nothing.
>>>
>>> Bodkin, you should not try to argue with a physicist. You simply do not
>>> understand the subject. Einstein's whole SR was
>>> based in thought experiments and rigid rods are perfectly legitimate 
>>> in such experiments.
>>
>> Nope. Not cool in thought experiments to suppose the breaking of laws of
>> physics.
> 
> Bodkin, when one talks about a 'rigid rod' or a 'perfect clock', one 
> means a rod or a clock that is sufficiently stable for any errors due to 
> lack of rigidity to be insignificant in the experiment in question.

Precisely! And in the cases you're talking about, the rods are not 
sufficiently stable to declare the nonrigidity negligible! Simple 
back-of-envelope calculations are sufficient for this purpose. So, 
Henry, pick a substance and let's look up the speed of sound in that 
material.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-26 09:09 +1000
  Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:42 +0000
    Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-27 09:17 +1000
      Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:52 -0500
        Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 08:24 +1000
          Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
            Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:24 +1000
              Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 16:35 +0000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 08:49 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:52 +0000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 14:55 +0000
              Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:42 +0000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:15 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:55 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:01 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:58 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 01:09 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:01 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 21:22 +1000
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                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:52 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 16:40 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:30 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:30 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:50 -0500
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 09:29 +1000
                Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-09 17:12 -0700

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