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| From | "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? |
| Date | 2017-09-07 01:09 +1000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <oop33o$1al7$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 06/09/17 23:58, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 9/5/17 6:01 PM, HGW wrote: >> On 05/09/17 23:55, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> On 9/5/17 5:15 AM, HGW wrote: >>>> On 05/09/17 10:42, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>> HGW <HW@home.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So '5 apples in a box' can mean '4 apples in a box' if you are >>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>> fast enough, Is that the kind of thing you >>>>>>>> are saying Bodkin? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You apparently cannot read. Read again the paragraph above that >>>>>>> starts >>>>>>> "Some sets of measured numbers...." >>>>>> >>>>>> I see now. So 1 2 3 4 5 can be 3 9 6 7 5 if one moves in the right >>>>>> way? >>>>>> Is that what you are saying. >>>>> >>>>> Are they measurements? >>>> >>>> Do they look like anything in particular? >>> >>> They should if you look carefully enough. Idiots will pretend that >>> measurements aren't measurements by squinting. Are you an idiot? >> >> They are just numbers. They don't refer to anything in particular. But >> in Einstein's RoS derivation, the numbers on the clock faces are both >> the same and refer to the same thing. > > Some numbers are measurements. You seem to be in denial about this. Not at all. You are confusing measurements with units. Naturally if two identical units refer to different quantities, they have entirely difference significance. 10345 seconds is obviously different from 10345 hours....or flying pigs. 10 apples are not the same as 10 potatoes either but the numbers have the same meaning in all reference frames. >>> Precisely! And in the cases you're talking about, the rods are not >>> sufficiently stable to declare the nonrigidity negligible! Simple >>> back-of-envelope calculations are sufficient for this purpose. So, >>> Henry, pick a substance and let's look up the speed of sound in that >>> material. >> >> Bodkin, any instability will disappear in a very short time after >> inertial state is re-established. > > Let's calculate that short time and see if it is insignificant compared > to the times involved in the relativistic examples you are posing. Bodkin, procrastinaing will not help you. My examples are those Einstein used to create his bogus RoS. Any transients involved are the same for him and me. The fact that he later claimed the moving rod was contracted makes no difference to my proof that his theory leads to a logical impossibility.
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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-26 09:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-27 09:17 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 08:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 16:35 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 08:49 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:52 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 14:55 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:15 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:55 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:01 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:58 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 01:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:01 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 21:22 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 04:35 -0700
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 16:40 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:30 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:30 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:50 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 09:29 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-09 17:12 -0700
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