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| From | HGW <HW@home.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? |
| Date | 2017-09-04 20:24 +1000 |
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On 01/09/17 04:37, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/28/17 5:24 PM, HGW wrote:
>> I take that to indicate that this is far too hard for a wood worker and he is not sure how to answer.
>>
>>> Some sets of measured numbers that are the same in one frame will be the same in other frames. Other sets of
>>> measured numbers that are the same in one frame will not be the same in another frame.
>>>
>>> Therefore the hypothesized "rule" that "sameness is frame invariant" which you are arguing is LOGICALLY obvious,
>>> is obviously false, demonstrating that you wouldn't know Logic if Logic had a big nametag that said "Hi, I'm
>>> Logic" and walked up and kissed on the lips.
>>
>> So '5 apples in a box' can mean '4 apples in a box' if you are moving fast enough, Is that the kind of thing you
>> are saying Bodkin?
>
> You apparently cannot read. Read again the paragraph above that starts "Some sets of measured numbers...."
I see now. So 1 2 3 4 5 can be 3 9 6 7 5 if one moves in the right way? Is that what you are saying.
>> Bodkin, in Einstein's RoS, there are two rigidly connected clocks,
>
> Rigid connections are impossible, even in an ideal world. They violate the known laws of physics. Attempting to make
> a point by supposing the existence of something that cannot possibly exist proves nothing.
Bodkin, you should not try to argue with a physicist. You simply do not understand the subject. Einstein's whole SR was
based in thought experiments and rigid rods are perfectly legitimate in such experiments.
>> the readings of which are known to both advance by the SAME NUMBERS during opposite transits of light signals
>> between them (if the light sources are connected to them). Will you, as the woodworker, still insist that those
>> numbers are frame dependent or will you, as the would-be-if-could-be physicist, agree with the obvious that they
>> are not.
HGW, DSc.
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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-26 09:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-27 09:17 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-08-29 08:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-04 20:24 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 16:35 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 08:49 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:52 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 14:55 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:42 +0000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-05 20:15 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:55 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-06 09:01 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:58 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 01:09 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:01 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-09-07 21:22 +1000
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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:52 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-08 16:40 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:30 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-09 07:30 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:50 -0500
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2017-09-10 09:29 +1000
Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-09 17:12 -0700
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