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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: I figured out charge |
| Date | 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500 |
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On 8/18/17 9:25 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "Scientists have been making hypotheses of things not yet seen for centuries" > So why do you jump so strongly against mine? > GREAT QUESTION! So first let's agree that there is NOTHING WRONG with hypotheses involving yet-unseen things. This is a critical aspect of doing science. Physicists do it, you want to do it. So please, please, please do not criticize physicists for doing this critical activity that you are doing yourself. It only makes you look completely hypocritical. So it isn't JUST the activity of speculation that is important here. There are several other key things that go into making a hypothesis, which YOU HAVE NOT DONE. This is what marks the difference between what you do and what physicists do, and you dismiss these things as being unimportant, but they are critical also. 1. Any hypothesis raised has to be consistent with ALL existing corroborated data collected to date. This requires the theorist to be familiar with the data, by doing lots and lots of reading. This was done with they hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, genes, quarks, dark matter. 2. Any hypothesis raised has to be accompanied by a mathematical expression of the same, so that QUANTITATIVE predictions can be made using the mathematics, so that they can be compared to experiment. This requires learning and practicing some mathematical skills. This was done with the hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, genes, quarks, dark matter. 3. Any hypothesis must be TESTABLE with observations that distinguish it from competing theories within a reasonable amount of time, and any hypothesis that is untestable is considered unscientific. The proposals of these tests cam with the hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, genes, quarks, and dark matter. 4. If there are any firm predictions of the hypothesis that are in conflict with existing data, no matter how many things the hypothesis gets right, then the hypothesis is WRONG and is tossed. I could list a litany of them here, including supersymmetry, SU(5) GUTs, phlogiston, and LeSage gravity. You'll note, John, that ALL of the complaints about your hypotheses are not about you making hypotheses. They're about you ignoring the four other criteria that I've listed above. You ignore them because you're not really interested in doing the WORK of science, you just like the speculation part. Well, John, speculation is not enough to be science. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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