Re: I figured out charge

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: I figured out charge
Date	2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
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On 8/18/17 8:33 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/18/17 8:25 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> -In physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form 
>> of energy which is hypothesized to permeate all of space, tending to 
>> accelerate the expansion of the universe.-
>>
>> The "dark" in DE AND in DM equally refers to the fact that we know 
>> nothing about it.
>> "Unknown".
>> Or do you say, Odd, that the energy is "unseen", like, hey! MOST forms 
>> of energy?
>> Twit
>>
> 
> John, remember the shopping cart example, where the cart seemed to stop 
> even though the cataloged forces all added to zero, and it turned out 
> that there was another force involved, a mysterious one called 
> "friction" so named because it seemed to cause this odd behavior?
> 
> Remember neutrinos, John, which were predicted decades before they were 
> detected, because in beta decays, the laws of conservation of momentum 
> and energy seemed to be violated? And in 1940, what was known about 
> neutrinos? Nothing, except that they appeared to be massless and they 
> carried energy and momentum. Did that make the idea nonsense? Did the 
> very idea that this had to be hypothesized tell you that conservation of 
> energy and conservation of momentum were nonsense physics? Was it 
> ILLOGICAL to propose neutrinos long before they were seen?
> 
> Yes or no answer, John, will suffice?
> 
> 

Scientists have been making hypotheses of things not yet seen for centuries.

- Joule explored the idea of "energy", an immaterial thing in an era 
where immaterial things were unheard of. What was it? Some kind of fluid?

- Dalton showed with simple proportions that chemicals were likely made 
of atoms, but this was two hundred years before anyone had any 
convincing proof that atoms even existed. They weren't in fact shown to 
have reality until 1905 when they were shown to explain Brownian motion!

- Darwin proposed the idea of something in gametes that passed on 
genetic information, though he had no idea what that something was. Was 
it a structure? Was it an organelle? Did it even exist, or was it a 
fabrication? It wasn't until Watson and Crick discovered DNA that the 
answer was in hand. Until then, it was a complete unknown.

- Purely out of an attempt to merge quantum mechanics and special 
relativity, Dirac noticed that there should be a whole class of 
particles not yet seen, if this theory was true, and antimatter was 
proposed though no one had any idea what this meant or where it was or 
had any idea where it could be found. And then a positron was actually 
observed.

- Neutrinos were predicted almost three decades before they were 
discovered, and the prediction came purely from an effort to salvage 
conservation of energy and conservation of momentum, which could not 
accurately account for experimental data in beta decay.

- Long before there was any evidence of any structure inside protons, 
Gell-Mann just noticed a pattern in the catalog of particles and 
proposed that there might be things inside, which he called quarks, that 
would account for the patterns. Keep in mind, no evidence for quarks up 
to that point, none at all. But if this were right, then there would be 
an omega-minus particle not yet seen. Then it was seen.

Now, John, you are saying that all this is nonsense science, that 
science has absolutely no business proposing completely new and 
yet-unseen things just to save physical theories or laws of physics. Let 
the laws die! you say. These predicted things are all epicycles, layered 
on to save the theories! you say. You call it ILLOGICAL to think this 
way. Junk science, with no solid thinking. No model, you say.

And yet, today, you acknowledge the existence of all those things 
discovered by junk science -- energy, atoms, genes, antimatter, 
neutrinos, quarks.

But do the same thing for something like dark matter, proposed to save 
the known laws of gravity, and here you bellow again: "Junk science! 
Epicycles! No logic! No model!"

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
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