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Re: I figured out charge

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: I figured out charge
Date 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
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On 8/18/17 9:25 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "Scientists have been making hypotheses of things not yet seen for centuries"
> So why do you jump so strongly against mine?
> 

GREAT QUESTION!

So first let's agree that there is NOTHING WRONG with hypotheses 
involving yet-unseen things. This is a critical aspect of doing science. 
Physicists do it, you want to do it. So please, please, please do not 
criticize physicists for doing this critical activity that you are doing 
yourself. It only makes you look completely hypocritical.

So it isn't JUST the activity of speculation that is important here. 
There are several other key things that go into making a hypothesis, 
which YOU HAVE NOT DONE. This is what marks the difference between what 
you do and what physicists do, and you dismiss these things as being 
unimportant, but they are critical also.

1. Any hypothesis raised has to be consistent with ALL existing 
corroborated data collected to date. This requires the theorist to be 
familiar with the data, by doing lots and lots of reading. This was done 
with they hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, genes, quarks, dark 
matter.

2. Any hypothesis raised has to be accompanied by a mathematical 
expression of the same, so that QUANTITATIVE predictions can be made 
using the mathematics, so that they can be compared to experiment. This 
requires learning and practicing some mathematical skills. This was done 
with the hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, genes, quarks, dark 
matter.

3. Any hypothesis must be TESTABLE with observations that distinguish it 
from competing theories within a reasonable amount of time, and any 
hypothesis that is untestable is considered unscientific. The proposals 
of these tests cam with the hypotheses of energy, atoms, antimatter, 
genes, quarks, and dark matter.

4. If there are any firm predictions of the hypothesis that are in 
conflict with existing data, no matter how many things the hypothesis 
gets right, then the hypothesis is WRONG and is tossed. I could list a 
litany of them here, including supersymmetry, SU(5) GUTs, phlogiston, 
and LeSage gravity.

You'll note, John, that ALL of the complaints about your hypotheses are 
not about you making hypotheses. They're about you ignoring the four 
other criteria that I've listed above. You ignore them because you're 
not really interested in doing the WORK of science, you just like the 
speculation part.

Well, John, speculation is not enough to be science.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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