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Re: by albert einstein

From "hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: by albert einstein
Date 2017-08-12 20:26 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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"The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
 > The Starmaker wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> says...
>> > > hanson schrieb:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
>> > > >> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>> > > >>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message 
>> > > >>> news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
>> > > >>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Hägar wrote:
>> > > >>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> > > >>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> > > >>> penned Obama's two books.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> > > >>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the 
>> > > >>> other
>> > > >>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery 
>> > > >>> rhetoric
>> > > >>> of those carpet baggers.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> > > >>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> > > >>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> > > >>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>> > > >>
>> > > > "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
>> > > >> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in 
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what 
>> > > >> Einstein
>> > > >> could not do.
>> > > >> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by 
>> > > >> him.
>> > > >>
>> > > > hanson wrote:
>> > > > Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
>> > > > or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
>> > > > spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
>> > > > Here, for your benefit, are some more
>> > > > <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
>> > > >
"Thomas Heger" wrote:
>> > > I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the
>> > > difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to 
>> > > write
>> > > in German).
>> > > The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions 
>> > > and
>> > > there are way more English words than German.
>> > > German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, 
>> > > because
>> > > they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to
>> > > pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
>> > > So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I 
>> > > could
>> > > also see the differences in the written language, since certain 
>> > > mistakes
>> > > are typical for Germans and for English.
>> > > For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and 
>> > > the
>> > > people living there are male singular (the German).
>> > > The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly
>> > > the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
>> > > So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are
>> > > used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep 
>> > > them
>> > > long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
>> > >  From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if
>> > > there is no accent.
>> > > But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. 
>> > > Wernher
>> > > von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
>> > > Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
>> > > Einstein could not have written it (himself).
>> > > But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
>> > > text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
>> > > translated by a professional translator.
>> >
hanson wrote:
>>> Thomas, alter Knabe, der kurze Sinn Deines langen Post's  ist
>>> offensichtlich. Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
>>> Geniesse das Wochenende, und bleibe ein  gute Landser.
>>> Wiederschaun'
>>>
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
>> > yours.  I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
>> > _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.
>> >
>> > If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
>> > grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and 
>> > when
>> > one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, 
>> > (b)
>> > hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to 
>> > vet,
>> > and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, 
>> > such
>> > errors can be easily eliminated.
>> > Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight 
>> > is a
>> > different question--he was an expert on physics, not government. 
>> > Expertise
>> > in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.
>>
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 'government expert'?? ,  i didn't even know the term existed. Is Trump a
>> 'government expert'????

The Starmaker wrote:
Einstein was certaintly a communist expert:
>
The first item in Einstein's FBI file, in 1932, argues that
Einstein should not be allowed into the United States.
''Not even Stalin himself'' was affiliated with so many
anarchic-Communist groups, the letter said.
>
<http://www.theeinsteinfile.com/_Einstein/fbi_files/1.pdf>
>
<https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%201%20of%2014/view>
>
Manifesto of the Communist Party: Special Collector's  Edition
with Foreward By Albert Einstein Karl Marx; Friedrich Engels
<https://www.abebooks.com/9781936828128/Manifesto-Communist-Party-Special-Collectors-193682812X/plp>
>
Albert Einstein,  was offered the presidency of Israel in 1952
but turned it down, stating "I am deeply moved by the offer
from our State of Israel [to serve as President], and at once
saddened and ashamed that I cannot accept it.>
>
I guess Israel was thinking..."We could use a guy like Einstein
who loves to build bombs." "WE WOULD OWN THE WORLD!"
>
I wouldn't have been suprised if Einstein would have fled to
Russia and drop the bomb on The United States...
He didn't like Capitalism and he didn't like American Women...
I think he has a thing for...Russian women.
>
hanson wrote:
.... ahahahaha... Starmaker, your tripe is a very good
addition to <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>.
After all, Einstein was an AshkenNazi Khazar whose ilk
flooded first Russia (and fucked it up) and then filtered
into Western Europe (and fucked it up) & then floated
across the Atlantic to infest the USA where they became
a horde of mooches who whored this Nation down to the
point which gave cause for the rise of Trump...
....

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by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 10:32 -0700
  Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 11:02 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 11:46 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 16:54 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 19:26 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 22:24 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:41 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:34 -0500
                Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:20 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:38 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:48 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-17 14:02 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:09 -0400
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-17 22:44 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-18 15:55 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:06 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:11 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-18 15:52 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 18:59 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 12:34 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:54 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-11 22:07 -0700
          Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:10 -0700
          Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:03 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 15:39 -0400
              Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 13:11 -0700
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 16:17 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 13:46 -0700
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 19:43 -0400
    Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 13:51 +0200
      Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:24 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 11:25 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 22:41 +0200
          Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 14:08 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:49 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:01 -0400
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:36 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 19:15 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 20:26 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 20:32 +0200
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:16 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 21:05 +0200
              Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 13:16 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-15 10:21 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-15 12:08 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-15 14:35 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-16 08:19 +0200
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 13:06 -0700
  Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 11:20 -0400
    Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 10:19 -0700
      Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:08 -0700
  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 10:42 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-25 12:33 -0700
  Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:44 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-24 09:04 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-24 16:57 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-24 20:23 -0400
        Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-25 14:21 -0700
          Re: Eventually, the Feds will have all the gold+BitCoins. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-26 12:23 -0700

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