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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: My web site |
| Date | 2017-07-01 14:41 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <oj8ttm$6ks$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <dd172a00-7148-4565-a0e3-374293c54b07@googlegroups.com> <oj5d3f$6ln$3@gioia.aioe.org> <59569a52$0$51794$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> <oj685r$1plv$1@gioia.aioe.org> <5956d01f$0$11867$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
On 6/30/17 5:26 PM, benj wrote: > On 6/30/2017 3:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 6/30/17 1:37 PM, benj wrote: >>> On 6/30/2017 7:36 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote: >>>>> W dniu piątek, 30 czerwca 2017 10:52:05 UTC+2 użytkownik Poutnik >>>>> napisał: >>>>>> Dne 30.6.2017 v 04:34 benj napsal(a): >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> What Odd fails to mention in his fantasy is that the days when >>>>>>> Physicists did physics and engineers did engineering ended with >>>>>>> WWII. >>>>>> >>>>>> Such a statement is false, as I know many physicist doing physics >>>>>> and many engineers doing engineering. >>>>> >>>>> But, as the mystical mumble of physicists has become worthless, we >>>>> have no choice but to do their job ourself. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yah another shining example of hubris. What gives? >>>> >>> Says the high priest of physics insane mumbo jumbo. >> >> There's nothing mumbo jumbo about it. Even a woodworker can understand >> it with a little effort and attention. Now, there may be the less >> agile of mind or the lazy who claim that, because they do not >> understand it, then NOBODY can understand it, and it is therefore >> mumbo jumbo. And to make it sound even more discredited, they might >> even attach the word "insane" to it. These are often the people who >> feed their laziness or feebleness by refusing to read books, claiming >> that they wouldn't stoop to read something they know is insane. >> >> Whatever, Ben. Self-rationalization is a powerful instinct. >> > What you mean, Odd, is that even a woodworker can REPEAT it as dogma. No, I meant what I said. Even a woodworker can UNDERSTAND it with a little effort and attention. Now you're going to tell me that if you can't understand it, then you don't believe it's possible that I understand it. Right? > Now understanding implies reason and logic which clearly you do not > employ in your religious beliefs (they are not really part of religion > anyway). > > Of course there are TWO kinds of mumbo jumbo. The first is something > that you don't understand to the person therefore assumes it makes no > sense. We see that here all the time with the 'I'm smarter than > Einstein" crowd. On the other hand there is mumbo jumbo which purports > to "explain" something but is really nothing but word salad with no > reason, logic or even verifiable facts, behind it. But which is which? Just because YOU don't understand it does not mean it is word salad with no reason or logic or verifiable facts. > > Only careful study with an open mind will do. And there is the rub. When > science becomes religion then the mind is no longer open. So when > Velikovsky says that Venus is Hot and Smooth but science says it's most > > Earth-like with billowy white clouds in a beautiful breeze, then the > smart money just calls Velikovsly a "kook" and refuses to even read what > he said. Some Like HVAC STILL defend the likes of Carl Sagan and their > mindless attacks even though THEY have been clearly proved to be the > idiots. > > And open mind means one is willing to read ALL books not just the > "official": approved ones. Oh, I suppose I'm open to it, but good heavens man, we all have only limited time. Now I'm aware that you don't read ALL the books either. You stay fastidiously away from the "official" approved ones. So mind your own advice. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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