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Re: Starting Forth

From Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Starting Forth
Date 2017-06-15 21:50 +0100
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On 15/06/2017 05:43, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 11:05:56 AM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
>> On 14/06/2017 17:05, Mark Wills wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:02:48 UTC+1, Cecil - k5nwa  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe because the the Forth community disparages the use of general
>>>> libraries and he rather spend his energy writing code than arguing with
>>>> people. I know from reaction here that if I had a really useful piece of
>>>> general code I would keep it to myself rather than getting bombarded
>>>> with negativity here.
>>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>> Oh come on, the only negativity you had in c.l.f about your string stack
>> library were the many bugs I reported, which, last time I looked, hadn't
>> been corrected.
> 
> Does this thread count as negativity?
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/xZO_hScBJiI
> 
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:26:53 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
>> Alex wrote on 6/11/2017 12:52 PM:
>>>>> you can't
>>>>> blame me (or others here) for Hugh's stupidity on these counts, nor our
>>>>> reaction to his technically incompetent and near insane posts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty over trying to have any useful communication with people like
>>>> that.  There are far too many of them on the Internet and far too little
>>>> time.  I want to try to spend some time on useful projects.
>>>
>>> The disinformation they spread is toxic. It's like green slime; it gets
>>> everywhere. I'm afraid I sometimes can't stop myself from pointing out how
>>> it gunges up everything, including brains.
>>
>> But in doing so, you also spread some of the green slime as well.  I
>> recently saw a photo of a Roomba that encountered a fresh dog pile and
>> spread it around the room rather than picking it up.
>>
>> Some things are best left untouched.
> 

Read in isolation it's not about negativity towards posted code or 
libraries. I don't know about the original post because I don't 
recollect reading it.

> This seems like a rather emotional response to my SORT function for arrays. When I wrote SORT in 2010 it seemed pretty simple and obvious. I did not expect to get attacked for it, for four years now, and I most likely forever. 

Yes it is rather tiresome the way it goes on and on, both sides have 
made their point and should just let it die.

> Maybe Cecil is the smart one --- keep all Forth code to yourself! --- 

Well people who take and don't contribute usually don't command much 
respect.

 > if your Forth code is made public, it will be called "green slime" and
 > "disinformation" and you will be called "stupid" and "insane."

That is a good example of disinformation as the post you quoted from 
didn't call code "green slime" and "disinformation", it said 
disinformation is like green slime - since when is code disinformation?

There has been plenty of Forth code posted on c.l.f that hasn't been 
dismissed in such a way. There's a world of difference between valid 
criticism (including suggestions for a better solution) and uninformed 
hostility.

-- 
Gerry

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  Re: Starting Forth Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-06-10 14:35 +0000
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 07:43 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 12:44 -0400
        Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 20:44 -0700
    Re: Starting Forth gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 12:52 -0700
  Re: Starting Forth new@to.forth - 2017-06-10 15:19 +0000
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 08:27 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 08:29 -0700
        Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:34 -0700
          Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:56 -0700
            Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:57 -0700
              Re: Starting Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 11:52 -0400
      Re: Starting Forth new@to.forth - 2017-06-10 21:38 +0000
        Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:53 -0700
        Re: Starting Forth NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 05:36 -0700
          Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 07:02 -0700
            Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 08:29 -0700
              Factor (was: Starting Forth) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-06-12 16:16 +0000
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 10:26 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 11:25 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 17:16 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) mhx@iae.nl - 2017-06-12 11:08 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-06-13 16:31 +0000
              Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 07:49 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-06-14 11:50 -0500
                Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:18 -0700
              Re: Starting Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-06-14 10:02 -0500
                Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 08:49 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-06-14 16:45 +0000
                Re: Starting Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 09:05 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-06-14 19:05 +0100
                Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:43 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 22:03 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-06-15 21:50 +0100
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      Re: Starting Forth foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 09:40 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-06-10 12:21 -0500
  Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 14:30 -0700
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:50 -0700

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