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Re: Starting Forth

From Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Starting Forth
Date 2017-06-14 10:02 -0500
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On 6/12/2017 10:29 AM, Julian Fondren wrote:
> 
> 
> In Factor I see a lot of library work that could've gone into Forth
> instead, and a quotation-heavy style that I don't care for, but that
> at least is a little bit annoying to replicate in Forth. Today gforth
> (development version), lina, and iForth all have [: ... ;] and return
> stack manipulation can get you that as well.

Maybe because the the Forth community disparages the use of general 
libraries and he rather spend his energy writing code than arguing with 
people. I know from reaction here that if I had a really useful piece of 
general code I would keep it to myself rather than getting bombarded 
with negativity here.

> 
> So it's weird in a way I don't care for and it has libraries. I'd
> rather have libraries in Forth, a language with a standard and many
> good implementations for enormously more architectures, without any
> worries like: tomorrow Slava Pestov will decide that what Factor
> really needs is *lazy semantics* - breaking all existing code.
> 



-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 07:15 -0700
  Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 07:19 -0700
  Re: Starting Forth Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-06-10 14:35 +0000
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 07:43 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 12:44 -0400
        Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-11 20:44 -0700
    Re: Starting Forth gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 12:52 -0700
  Re: Starting Forth new@to.forth - 2017-06-10 15:19 +0000
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 08:27 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 08:29 -0700
        Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:34 -0700
          Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:56 -0700
            Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:57 -0700
              Re: Starting Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 11:52 -0400
      Re: Starting Forth new@to.forth - 2017-06-10 21:38 +0000
        Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:53 -0700
        Re: Starting Forth NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 05:36 -0700
          Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 07:02 -0700
            Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 08:29 -0700
              Factor (was: Starting Forth) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-06-12 16:16 +0000
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 10:26 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 11:25 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 17:16 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) mhx@iae.nl - 2017-06-12 11:08 -0700
                Re: Factor (was: Starting Forth) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-06-13 16:31 +0000
              Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 07:49 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-06-14 11:50 -0500
                Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:18 -0700
              Re: Starting Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-06-14 10:02 -0500
                Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 08:49 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-06-14 16:45 +0000
                Re: Starting Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 09:05 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-06-14 19:05 +0100
                Re: Starting Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:43 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 22:03 -0700
                Re: Starting Forth Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-06-15 21:50 +0100
    Re: Starting Forth foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 09:22 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 09:40 -0700
      Re: Starting Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-06-10 12:21 -0500
  Re: Starting Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 14:30 -0700
    Re: Starting Forth christopherdumas@gmail.com - 2017-06-10 15:50 -0700

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